For reference, I’ve created a list of all of the *verified sub - 8:00 minute runs on the Nurburgring made by cars that are available in the US. They're listed from highest to lowest. As you can see….Porsche leads the pack with 8 cars.

*NOTE: I tried to use as many Sport Auto tests that I could, since they seem to be the most accurate and verifiable. I’ve also left what seem to be only manufacturer’s claims out of the list.

Also, while I have no doubt that some cars that haven’t been officially tested will run sub-8:00 minute ‘ring times all day long, without an official test I can’t add them (C5 Z06, Enzo, etc..)

Please let me know if I’m missing anything.


Porsche (8):


1. 7:32.44 163.911 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, definitive time Horst von Saurma (sport auto 01/04)

2. 7:33 --- 163.708 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/1497 kg (sport auto 11/07) www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=142508

3. 7:46 --- 159.142 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT2, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/01)

4. 7:48 --- 158.463 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 415 PS/1424 kg (sport auto 03/07) www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=120285

5. 7:48 --- 158.463 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/1440kg (sport auto 07/06) www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=91836

6. 7:54 --- 156.456 km/h -- Porsche 997 Turbo, 480 PS/1620 kg (sport auto 06/07) www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=126501 www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPvBuZ3EJTQ&mode=user&search=

7. 7:54 --- 156.456 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 (sport auto 06/03)

8. 7:56 --- 155.798 km/h -- Porsche 996 Turbo, 420 PS/1569 kg (sport auto 06/00)


Lamborghini (4):

1. 7:46 --- 159.142 km/h -- Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera, 530 PS/1528 kg (sport auto 09/07)
www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=137437

2. 7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- Lamborghini Murcielago, 575 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/02)

3. 7:52 --- 157.119 km/h -- Lamborghini Gallardo E-gear, 500 PS/1496 kg (sport auto 12/03)

4. 7:56.65 155.569 km/h – Lamborghini Gallardo SE, 520 PS/1560 kg, Tom Kristensen (AutoBild 02/06

Ferrari (3):

1. 7:47 --- 158.801 km/h –- Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano, 620 PS/1805 kg (sport auto 01/07) www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=134701

2. 7:55 --- 156.126 km/h – Ferrari F430 F1, 490 PS/1493 kg (sport auto 01/06)
www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=67305

3. 7:56 --- 155.798 km/h -- Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale, 425 PS/1387 kg (sport auto 02/04)


Mercedes (1):

1. 7:52 --- 157.119 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren 626 PS (sport auto 06/04)

Koenigsegg (1):

7:34 --- 163.586 km/h -- Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1418 kg, Horst von Saurma (sport auto, oct 17-18 05) www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=75219

Bugatti (1):

7:40 --- 161.217 km/h – Bugatti 16/4 Veyron, 1001 PS/1980 kg (Wheels magazine Australia, 12/05)www.autobild.de/artikel/Themen-Testberichte-Duell-auf-der-Nordschleife_45763.html


Chevrolet (1):
7:49 --- 158.124 km/h -- Corvette Z06, 512 PS/1440 kg (sport auto 06/07) www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=0&tID=129099 www.youtube.com/watch?v=62WfAYRcaHI )

Nissan (1):
7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- Nissan GT-R, 480 PS/1750 kg, Horst von Saurma, partially wet track (sport auto 12/07) www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=1&tID=145737


Ford (1):
7:52 --- 157.119 km/h –- Ford GT, 550 PS/1599 kg (sport auto 02/06)


Here are the cars ranked by HP, lowest to highest. Porsche really seems to do more with less, and does it very consistently. Even with the heavy TT’s:

1. 996 GT3 – 381
2. 997 GT3 - 415
3. 997 GT3 RS - 415
4. 996TT – 420
5. 360 CS – 425
6. 996 GT2 – 462
7. 997TT - 480
8. GT-R – 480
9. F-430 – 490
10. Gallardo E-Gear – 500
11. C6 Z06 - 505
12. Gallardo SE – 520
13. 997 GT2 - 530
14. Gallardo Superleggera – 530
15. Ford GT - 550
16. Murcielago – 575
17. Carrera GT – 612
18. 599 GTB – 620
19. SLR – 626
20. CCR – 806
21. Veyron – 1001+

Anyway, I thought it might make for an interesting discussion.

 

I am surprised how slow the CLK DTM time is compared to the others.

 

You are probably thinking of the CLK GTR which is NOT the same car... The CLK DTM is just a juiced up CLK AMG with wider flares..

 

No. I am thinking about the CLK DTM. I am very familiar with both cars.
You are obviously not, as the DTM is not "just a CLK with AMG and wider flares". Do some research and come back.

 

thanks great database for reference

 

Luis, it's very simple... it's cuz Mercedes is wack. Who puts an auto tranny in a car like that? This is why MB pisses me off. The car is not so light either.

For me, I'd rather have a GT2 over a CLK DTM on the race track any day. DTM is a very nice car, but it ain't a GT2.

 

Fantastic, so when are you guys coming over to meet up at the ring with me and Jimmer?

There also Kaizu from Finland and a few guys from Sweden and Germany

Telling you, you guys will love it!

 

I can come over there in the spring with a bunch of corvettes and take my car around the ring. The trip is 10k, I'm tossing if I', going or not.


As for the ring times, please dont feed the fanboys, I'm sure they are chomping at the bit to post something. And you'll know what I mean when it happens.

 

sweet table. good info to see.

 

Since when did CLK DTM AMG officially available in US? I hope we are on the same page and talking about the car pictured below and not mistaking with the CLK Black Series, AMG just released in 07.



I was there last year. And, a year before that. And, before that.

Here's some pics (I'm in BMW),


Some misfortune at the ring posted on M3 forum, http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=151381

 

Ok, no need to be rude. I have driven an CLK DTM on the track and I can tell you that in my opinion it feels just like any other CLK with lots of power and upgraded suspension and brakes. But it is still heavy (1750kg/3850lbs) therefor not very fast on the track.
But still, 7.54 was considered VERY fast in ´04...

See you guys at the ring next year.

 

Datax,

You might be right. I may be mistaking it with the Black series. I admit that I don't follow Mercedes very closely.

 

Once in a lifetime opportunity to hit a real track?

trip is 10k, what does that involve?

 

Divexxtreme: the Pagani Zonda F should be included in the list. 7:33 as per the Sport Auto Supertest: http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...ID=2&tID=83550

And IMHO, the 7:50 Nissan GT-R should be left out of the list until a proper Supertest is done for the car. The conditions during a Supertest is quite different than that for regular Sport Auto test test drives (no other cars on the track during a Supertest, etc. etc.).

As for the 997 GT2, all I can say is WOW. Truth be told, I used to think that it'll be impossible for it to match/exceed the time set by cars like the Zonda F and the Koenigsegg CCR with just 530bhp. I guess you're right, Porsche really is the King of the 'Ring. I think the Pilot Sport Cups also helped.

 

This is just a guess but the speed limiter may have something to do with it. By all accounts, it should at least be faster than the SLR McLaren if not for the MB-imposed speed limiter.