Nero,

Please put me on your contact list. I want a clutch that I can slip the
hell out of on a launch and yet still drives nice for normal starts.

Marty

 

That is not over priced considering how quickly you can waste a clutch or two.....so long as it lasts as promised.

 

Wow looks like an awesome new setup, price isn't bad either considerng what you are getting!!!

 

nice!

 

Agreed on the carbon metal vs carbon carbon. I was told by 2 tuners- one P car and on evo8 ... that Tilton holds but does not last as long as other clutches.
One of my friends has the tilton- who held the texas mile record a year ago and he said the same thing.... it gets pricey when you have to change discs often... yet it does the job.. and in the end thats all that counts...
I do not know I do not have that experience... I'm just passing on info from what I was told...
markski

 

Thx, I took there advice and purchased the ATS.
R

 

The tiltons we have used in the past that were C/C last about 4-6K miles tops. I have not seen a ATS with any issues.

 

The Tilton has 3 wear spacers which can be installed to give the clutch new life as it wears, and once those are out of specs, the clutch can be rebuilt for usually a couple hundred dollars (slightly more if you let the clutch get out of specs and continue to drive on it).

With a properly setup clutch with a pedal stop and half the horsepower I'd expect the clutch to last a good bit in the 996. A good buddy got 24-25k Miles out of this in a 800+ HP Supra that was driven to the track and drag raced more than any other car I've known about. After a quick refresh he's out trying to put another 25K miles on the car now.

From the reading on this forum, it appears most of the previous applications where using organic discs which would wear out rather quickly in an AWD car, the carbon/carbon discs are much better suited to a high horsepower AWD application and will wear much better as a result.

 

Wes, who got 25k out of a Tilton? I loved my Tilton in my Supra, but got on average of a few hundred miles out of it mine before we put in the thicker plate. I think we rebuilt 3 at around 500 miles each. I also agree from experience through my Evo buddies that they don't last real long, but it's the only clutch they could powershift and beat on that won't slip at high hp. You can't have it both ways. I beat the **** of out of mine and it never came apart nor did it ever slip. I agree rebuilding them was relatively cheap and fast. I would think for Porsche applications the wear would be completely different and much longer. I had an ATS on my old GT2 and although it worked well for the time I had it, I preferred the feel of the Tilton. Wes, let us know if chatters hard at idle.

 

It was either Gary White or Greg at GSC who got a ton of life out of theirs. Darin / Omar / Jess I believe are all on their original spacer plate, as is Nero in his Hardtop. Most are driven primarily on the street with occational trips to the track. A dedicated track car/ race car would obviously have less life.

I'll have to bet that every bit of your 500 miles where at 40+PSI however!

 

The hardtop is like a museum piece for me so it doesn't have miles, but Gary White may have even more then 25k miles on each of his Tilton's he drives it everywhere and never trailers it. He brought it down here to FL just 2 weeks ago and drove to Key West and back to Huntsville, AL with no issues. It all depends on how you drive it Jamie Carter who's only racing his Supra and making 1200rwhp which is on the edge of the Tilton triple will wear much quicker then if you had a quad (which is why it was now made, for customers like Jamie C.). If you are normal driving you should be able to get a ton of miles, and normal driving in Titan-land doesn't mean never getting on it but just using it as a commuter/weekend car not a full racecar like many of the Supra guys do.

 

siiiick

 

I put together a clutch for a 996TT customer of mine over a year ago using the same Tilton assembly. We had an aluminum flywheel made and the driveability and engine response were terrific. I can't imagine that you guys would have any problems with the steel flywheel that Tilton has produced for their kit.

 

Tym -

That kit looks great!! When Tilton was making the kit for us Nero sent me this photo and I thought it was the prototype. Great work.

The car is on the lift right now, engine out. It should be up and running with the Tilton and K24/18G's next week so that I can post some results. I think it will be everything I expect it to be and more. I'm also curious how much weight the overall setup (and removing the actuator and converting to the Tilton release bearing) will save us.

-Wes

 

Thanks Wes! I'm interested to hear how everything comes together! How do you like the exhaust?