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Old Jul 6, 2004 | 08:33 AM
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Any dyno graph of Upsolute before/after?

I've searched a bit but couldn't find anything.

I am specifically interested in the tourque curves comparison at lower rpm.

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Thanks Detailer708. Is there a "before" version?

When you look at the X50 curves, you will notice that Porsche sacrificed the low end for the high rpm range. Not sure if Upsolute has the same trade off.

I am also looking for X50 upsolute dyno graph. Which I haven't seen anywhere.
 
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Try this one:

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...olute+dyno+x50

X50 putting down 500WHP on an AWD Mustang Dyno with just the Upsolute and exhaust!!!
 
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I'm sending my '01 996TT to get dyno'd at SP Engineering on Friday.

I have the following mods:
1. Upsolute Chip
2. Custom exhaust with reduced backpressure and drilled CATS
3. K&N

I'll post results after. I'm basically doing this to dispel the myth that you have to spend $3000-$5000 on a chip for the Turbo. I am a firm believer that the $500 Upsolute chip will perform just as well in an apples to apples comparison.
 
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The Upsolute chip and the other chip prices have been debated before but most people arn't happy with 500hp so after that the Upsolute is worthless. Which is why others choose different chips.
 
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Originally posted by dbelleperc
but most people arn't happy with 500hp so after that the Upsolute is worthless. Which is why others choose different chips.
worthless???

Have you tried a custom upsolute program with larger turbos? Did you even know this was possible?
 
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My bad, that is what I have heard from others.
 
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Originally posted by trojanman

I'll post results after. I'm basically doing this to dispel the myth that you have to spend $3000-$5000 on a chip for the Turbo. I am a firm believer that the $500 Upsolute chip will perform just as well in an apples to apples comparison.
Nothing to prove...this was already done a number of times.

I for one with just my ecu and exhaust, had higher dyno numbers than a stageIII car with K24 turbos and all.
 
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Does anyone know if Upsolute have ironed out the problems with 2004 models?
 
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2. Custom exhaust with reduced backpressure and drilled CATS
What kind of exhaust? Is this a "Turbo-Exhaust" from David L?

If so...great power...I can personally attest to that.
 
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Originally posted by BCS996TT
What kind of exhaust? Is this a "Turbo-Exhaust" from David L?

If so...great power...I can personally attest to that.
Yes - It is a Turbo-Exhaust from David and I am very happy with it, especially considering the price.

Do you know whatever happened to David & his operation? I can't find his website anymore.

 
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It's a great product. The reason that they can do this is because of the market that they hold. They do A LOT of chips for Audi and VW. They sell those chips for $500 as well. It doesn't require much more work than on the Audi or VW. They have a good market share from the other cars so they can keep their prices low.
Not quite true. In the U.S. they may tell you they have a large market share (you heard this from someone at the company, right?), but do some searches on the various websites - vwvortex, audiworld, clubb5, etc. - and you will see much more popularity with APR, Neuspeed, and GIAC chips. The main reason: Performance and Options. Race gas, N20, Valet, as well as the key-fob program changers.

The cost of the UPS chip for most VW/Audi vehicles is not $500, it's between $250 and $350. They may knock the competition for charging extra $$$ for 996TT applications, but they are doing the same thing. And you'd think if they sell a chip for a car, they'd have seen one before - Open your Excellence magazine and check out how they spell Boxster.

The main reason they are cheaper is for the most part, they don't have any actual brick and mortar facilities in the U.S. No dynos, no service, wrenches, staff, etc. Anyone know what kind of insurance they carry. I'll bet most people here either sent your ECU to them, or had a guy come out to your house/work to do the install. If you sent your ECU in to have it programmed, there's a pretty good chance it was programmed on some guy's kitchen table. Or in their car: http://videos.imolas4.com/1552treffe...o_see_here.mpg

Now, does anyone have a Non-X50 Before/After dyno of this chip using the same dyno?
 
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The main reason they are cheaper is for the most part, they don't have any actual brick and mortar facilities in the U.S. No dynos, no service, wrenches, staff, etc. Anyone know what kind of insurance they carry. I'll bet most people here either sent your ECU to them, or had a guy come out to your house/work to do the install. If you sent your ECU in to have it programmed, there's a pretty good chance it was programmed on some guy's kitchen table. Or in their car: http://videos.imolas4.com/1552treffe...o_see_here.mpg
Your assumptions might be correct about the US...however, Upsolute's market share is massive worldwide. Their facilities, staff, etc. are mainly in Austria, however, the popularity of their product extends worldwide....That's why they can afford to offer everyone the same price.

Your point about someone coming to your house to program your ecu vs sending it to a rep is the same as sending it out to another another tuning company. I've been to an authorized GIAC dealer and their ecu programming area consisted of nothing more than a laptop, soldering tools and a workbench. What more do you expect when it comes to downloading a file to your ecu?

You open the ecu, pull the chip out, download the file, solder it back on and you're done. If I had the tools, I could do it myself.

Regarding the Key fob...did you know Upsolute offers that as well? Maybe not for the 996TT...but for 500.00 for rock solid performance and reliability, Who cares!
 
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Re: Any dyno graph of Upsolute before/after?

Originally posted by ypshan
I've searched a bit but couldn't find anything.

I am specifically interested in the tourque curves comparison at lower rpm.

Thanks.
Shan,

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