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Old Aug 6, 2004 | 02:38 AM
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Sept. Car and Driver

In the new issue of C&D, in their Short Take Reviews, they have an automatic 996TT cab review. How in the hell did they pull their numbers on a stock TT that is the heaviest TT made? They even state that these are the quickest times they have gotten on any 996TT whether it be a cab or coupe, or Tip or 6 speed. For the people that haven't gotten it yet, they pull a 3.8 to 60 and a 12.2 1/4 mile.
 
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freezing cold day with a tail wind and one helluva driver is my guess.
 
Old Aug 6, 2004 | 03:23 AM
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it might have been an X50 and they didn't know it. If it was an X50 3.8 is "possible". I hope it is since I have the same setup but without the TIP.

 
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Re: Sept. Car and Driver

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How in the hell did they pull their numbers on a stock TT that is the heaviest TT made?
The track and the launch make a huge difference.
 
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I was just reading this latest issue of Autoweek and was floored that the stock C6 Corvette does 0-60 in only 4.2 seconds!!! WOW.
 
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Here's the scan. Was it a ringer, or really an X50 without their knowledge?

 
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X50 will not give you that 0 to 60. Car is too heavy and it's a tip.

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Don't forget that they posted a 3.6 0 to 60 time for an SL600. How they did that floors me.
 
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oweyeah your x50 is a 3.6 not 3.8
 
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I think Owyea was referring to seconds...not liters...

3.8 sec is very unrealistic for a Tip X50 Cab.

The times listed in this article are unrealistic at best.

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I did many 'off the line' races in my Tip. The thing was amazing. It actualyl shifts much faster in the automatic mode as opposed to the 'manual one'. The interesting thing I saw was how quickly it would build boost and how nicely it held boost in between shifts (remember that you don't need to lift your right foot in an auto). Much faster than most of the manuals I played around with and some of these guys go to the dragstrip quite often.

Also keep in mind the gear ratios on the Tip are different and this helps acceleration too!

I don't doubt those numbers for a second. Didn't Sharkster fly through the 1/4 mile (time wise) and was much faster than similarly prepped 6speed Turbos in the 996TT shootout in Euro Magazine? The Tip is VERY fast in a straight line.

Just my $.02
 
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If I'm not mistaken, the TT coupe weight is "claimed" to be around 3,505lbs the TT Cab is "claimed" to be at 3660lbs. So the cab is 155lbs heavier.

So you guys think that 155lbs will make that much of a difference?

That's the weight of a very "busty" woman or a very small guy.

I'll just ride without a passenger!

Porsche's official number take 1/10th of second off the cab when compared to the coupe.

I lost about 50lbs when I got rid of the Stock exhaust so now I'm about 105lbs heavier than the TT coupe.

Some after market wheels and Brembo brakes should bring me down to the coupe weight.

 
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Re: Re: Sept. Car and Driver

Originally posted by Dock (Atlanta)
The track and the launch make a huge difference.
Si, si. Also temperature and altitude (surrogates for air density).

BTW, have any of you ever watched a car magazine do performance testing? I'd be surprised if the torque converter and the drive train lived through it without some deterioration in their expected service life
 
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Re: Re: Re: Sept. Car and Driver

Originally posted by Ruiner
Pulling a 12.2 in these cars means a low 1.7x 60ft time. That is one HELL of a launch, Dock.
MT ran 11.92 @ 116.09, and a 0-60 in 3.98 in a stock '01 Turbo 6-speed. And Car and Driver ran 12.3 @ 116, and a 0-60 of 3.9 in an '01 6-speed.

So good launches, good tracks, and good weather are out there.
 


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