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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 08:22 AM
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Did you ever find out exactly what happened to the original engine?

Not as of yet... I will know more once the engine is out... and even more when it goes back to Cali and Loren Beggs at 911 Design for the tear down. He promised me the broken pieces and lots of pics to post... Stay tuned!

Did you get the postmortem results of the original engine yet?
 
Old Jan 22, 2009 | 08:45 AM
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Did you get the postmortem results of the original engine yet?
No not yet. The engine is still in Oklahoma but ready for shipment to Loren at 911 design. Hopefully will all know something in a few weeks.
 
Old Jan 22, 2009 | 08:52 AM
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SpeedYellow
you move a LOT MORE air per unit of BAR with larger turbos. 1-BAR with G35's vs 1-BAR with K16's is no comparison. 1.3-BAR on G16's is totally maxxing them out. You'll soon need new turbos.

get a set of GT28's with REAL ball-bearing cartridges and they'll spool SUPERFAST and feel like K-16's with tons more punch.

you won't necessarily get the 7000RPM power out of them that you'd get with larger compressors but then you'd have a virtually ZERO lag situation while filling up the 5500-6500RPM space in the powerband with extra horsepower and interestingly, the 3500-5000RPM space with extra torque vs a distinct dropoff (in torque) @ 3500-4000RPM's which is the limiting factor with the K16's. the higher torque @ 4K-RPM's and above will materially aid your freeway marauding adventures in the 140-170mph area.

overboosting K16's does only one thing.... delivers VERY HOT air to the motor. you should not do this if you want the car to live. get larger turbos and some IC's if you want to get more aggressive. you're slowly COOKING your intake system and it's going to kill the motor, ultimately.
It's not really the compressor wheel that changes the way the larger turbos perform relative to smaller units at the same boost pressure. It is the turbine housings. If you are just stepping up to a bigger compressor with the same hot side, you havn't really done anything to change the motors VE, and will likely have very similar power outputs. That is why the k24/20g snails really come to life on race gas. The c16 allows you to up the boost to points where the 18g wheel could not flow enough to sustain the pressure.

I'm also with Tony as far as boost goes with pump as. The DSM I built ran a 1.4bar wg spring and ran into the middle 500s at the tires on 93 octane. You just have to dial the tune in for it.
 
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Sorry to hear about what happened.
 
Old Jan 27, 2009 | 11:24 PM
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Glad to hear that it is going toward the right direction for you. Keep us posted on the diagnosis.
 
Old Jan 28, 2009 | 09:53 AM
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Glad to hear that it is going toward the right direction for you. Keep us posted on the diagnosis.
Will do!!!
 
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bummer! So sorry to hear. Best of luck...
 
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What was the final price tag for the engine?
 
Old Jan 29, 2009 | 03:24 PM
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What was the final price tag for the engine?
Still tallying... but it's gonna be somewhere around 16K+
 
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I'm relatively new to the forum, and love my GT2. I hate to hear about what happened to your TT, but this thread has been a great learning tool for a newbie like me. One of the things which I noticed was that all those ECU flashes everyone talks about may or may not remove the "safety" features of the stock ECU. Since an ECU upgrade is in my future, I'll be asking the right questions. I'm also looking forward to finding out what happened to the engine which started this whole thing.
 
Old Feb 10, 2009 | 10:49 AM
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What are the details of the new motor i.e. what did you finally decide to do power wise?
 
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Originally Posted by art4iza
Glad to hear that it is going toward the right direction for you. Keep us posted on the diagnosis.
The war and peace of turbos and detonation! Nevertheless educating.
 
Old Feb 11, 2009 | 04:59 PM
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Great thread. Thanks for sharing your story with us so that we can all learn (and take a break from our desk jockey jobs, LOL). I look forward to updates.
 
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Originally Posted by $manager
What are the details of the new motor i.e. what did you finally decide to do power wise?
I'm staying with the original setup on the new engine... K24/18g's, 5 bar FPR, Protomotive ECU flash. I also have GT2 IC's, Yellow silicone hoses, DV's, Fabspeed exhaust & airbox. That should do it for me...
 


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