Max power on stock internals: Capping the HP/TQ?
#16
03-06-2009, 11:57 AM
I think someone could make 800rwhp on a stock bottom end. That car that Ryan (TXGold) posted up could have really done it. He would have to run a higher boost level and with a GT35R on a stock bottom end is that it's going to be really laggy. I don't see why it could not make that power though.
The key with Mark, Scott, Rob, etc.. is the head work and cams. I remember someone saying that Todd K. claimed that you could pick up close to a 100rwhp by doing both of them. Which I would not doubt at all. Better flow = more power regardless.
The key with Mark, Scott, Rob, etc.. is the head work and cams. I remember someone saying that Todd K. claimed that you could pick up close to a 100rwhp by doing both of them. Which I would not doubt at all. Better flow = more power regardless.
That's the key maximize flow so you can acheive more power with the same or less amount of boost. Also what about head sealing? I wonder if a car pushed at 800 RWHP for awhile would start pushing water?
#17
03-06-2009, 12:08 PM
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I've read almost all the info here already. I am searching for the guy that is running 750rwhp with 750TQ level on stock motor. Perhaps some of the tuners might be able to give us the answer.
#19
03-06-2009, 01:00 PM
Jitsu touched on something important, how long do you want your motor to last?
I am currently at 700ish hp on pump gas, I wont go any further without doing internals. My understanding is the limitation of HP is the connecting rods/wrist pins (about 750ish Hp/Tq), however I would like to hear Divexx's experiences. I currently have the UMW 2c with K24/26's, they are basically detuned to support my current level, my tuner could allow allot more torque in the lower rpms and hp in the upper rpms, but the risk of lifting the heads and/or damaging the rods increases significantly. I havent heard much about the power limitations of the heads/valves/ cams etc...
That being said- you could raise the tq and hp to whatever you want, but I think its a gamble of how long the motor lasts.
I am currently at 700ish hp on pump gas, I wont go any further without doing internals. My understanding is the limitation of HP is the connecting rods/wrist pins (about 750ish Hp/Tq), however I would like to hear Divexx's experiences. I currently have the UMW 2c with K24/26's, they are basically detuned to support my current level, my tuner could allow allot more torque in the lower rpms and hp in the upper rpms, but the risk of lifting the heads and/or damaging the rods increases significantly. I havent heard much about the power limitations of the heads/valves/ cams etc...
That being said- you could raise the tq and hp to whatever you want, but I think its a gamble of how long the motor lasts.
#20
03-06-2009, 01:11 PM
K24/26's? Wow, how far are you planning on taking this car? Those turbo's will take you to 1,000 RWHP with a built engine. I am curious though, what does a build like that cost?
#21
03-06-2009, 01:29 PM
Yep, its pretty quick, even at alititude. I'm planning internals next winter and then adjust the tune accordingly, thats as far as I am going....I think :-)
Kevin's in your neighborhood, pay him a visit and inquire abpout the 2c and intenals, he also has a sweet 3 and 4 kit as well.
Kevin's in your neighborhood, pay him a visit and inquire abpout the 2c and intenals, he also has a sweet 3 and 4 kit as well.
#23
03-06-2009, 02:20 PM
I think I may try to go for some records myself. We will have to see what the future brings. Right now I need to fix my ABS/PSM light fixed because I can't even run high boost.
I will say this though if things work out people will **** bricks when they see what these Skinny White Dudes have done!!
I will say this though if things work out people will **** bricks when they see what these Skinny White Dudes have done!!
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