996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 10:35 AM
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upgraded headers...

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on a k24 car

what do upgraded headers actually do ?

for instance, the evo k16 headers on a k24 car ?

do they give you better spool up ? sound ? power ?


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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 10:40 AM
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Hi Steve,
You are going to get varying responses to this and if you search you will find some people say stock ported headers are fine up to 600hp while others will say headers do not make power. I say ask EVO, Switzer, GMG and AWE for the info and proof. I found a used set of headers (evo K24) in the classifieds for $500 and scooped them up. I personally feel they did help with turbo lag/response and am happy I got them for such a good deal. Would I pay the ~$1500+ for them new? Probably not....

Funny thing is I was at a tuners shop a few years ago and spoke about Exhaust manifolds and they said their testing showed no power improvements over stock (non-ported) Now a few years later they are offering them for the 996TT... The same shop designed a set to work with their 997TT systems and I believe the same header can be used for both cars. So I wonder what has changed? Things that make you go HMmmmmmmmmm?
 

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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 10:48 AM
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i know what you mean lol

im actually getting a free set
but i wanted to see if it was even worth putting them on the car at this point...
 
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It all has to do with power level...Stock k16 car simply does not need headers...Stock k24 as well...But from k24/18g and over headers are starting to take place in order to gain hp and torque,especialy at low to mid rpm...When headers were installed to my car,i had to lower set gain to 75% from 80% to reach 1,4bar boost...This shows that the car could reach boost more easy...
 
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Originally Posted by STEVE KOJASEVIC
Alan
i know what you mean lol

im actually getting a free set
but i wanted to see if it was even worth putting them on the car at this point...
What specs is your car?
 
Old Mar 11, 2009 | 10:58 AM
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lightweight flywheel
evo waste gates
diverter valves
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GT2 intercoolers...
1.2 bar on 93 pump

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Hmmm, wonder how headers stack up to a ported exhaust manifold on cars with say a k24/18 setup?
 
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Steve, i really think it matters what headers.

I don't want to get into too much detail, but i've seen gains with my scargo headers...
 
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the headers are from EVO
i believe they have some sort of black ceramic coating for heat insulation ... ???
 
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Originally Posted by STEVE KOJASEVIC
the headers are from EVO
i believe they have some sort of black ceramic coating for heat insulation ... ???
If it came from evoms that way, its probably swain coating.

Do you know which ones it is: k16, k24, gt?
 
Old Mar 11, 2009 | 12:48 PM
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theyre the k16 ones
 
Old Mar 11, 2009 | 12:54 PM
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I think they are "worth" putting on, only a 10 min job to swap them...
 
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is it a DIY ?
do i have u buy any sort of gaskets ?
 
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Originally Posted by STEVE KOJASEVIC
theyre the k16 ones
I personally wouldn't put the EVO K16 headers on a K24 based car. I would call EVO and see what they say though....
 
Old Mar 11, 2009 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by STEVE KOJASEVIC
is it a DIY ?
do i have u buy any sort of gaskets ?
you could replace the gaskets, although they are re-useable.

The k16 headers were desgined for k16 turbos, although the tubing diameter is still larger than stock...

The gasket numbers are:
996.111.215.70 -this is gasket from headers to turbo.
996.111.107.71 -this is gasket from head to headers
 

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