That is a NICE garage!

I absolutely respect your opinion and see that you got exactly what you wanted in terms of more power and a stock like car.

There is NO way to get an additional 175HP with 16gs and a stock exhaust.

As for the clutch, I drove my car on the original and a maxed out K24s, with all the trimmings (probably a solid 575 HP car) for 30K miles. 16/16gs are great, but they don't make more torque than a K24 car. Cross that mid to upper 500 HP barrier and I agree you need an expensive clutch. $2000+ depending on what you get.

 

I've still got a 06 GSXR 1000. It's scary fast but you're right, after an hour or two I need a chiropractor lol.

 

I miss-typed. I should have said 147 per the EPL sheet. Guess I'm getting dyslexic now too.

http://www.eplabs.net/pdf/996-k16-16g-kit.pdf

You are so right. I'll fix the original post to fix the typo.

I also take all horsepower claims with a grain of salt. I'm not going for a finely measured gain. Just a good press in the seat.

 

Good catch. That mini-bike was a shop project by my son when he was a sophmore in highschool. He put an 8hp engine in it.... and it is so dangerous, almost everyone who rode it, including the shop teacher, crashed their brains out.

With the help of some friends while drinking beer, we hoisted it up there to keep him and everyone else safe.

Now he jumps out of airplanes....

 

Ari, where did get thaat? A 16g turbo makes crazy TQ much higher than a K24 and equal or higher than 18g. I made 540TQ with no exhaust at around 4500. All that on a dynodynamics ..the lowest reading Dyno.

There is no issue with TQ on the 16g's ...its the high end HP that lacks when compared to 18G...other than thaat its a great turbo.

 

Low end torque maybe, since HP is a derivative of torque, the 16/16g makes less torque at high RPM. In fact at 5,000 RPM it starts to make less and less power.

This is a different dyno, and there is no RPM and torque. Stock K24s, 91 octane (this car has exhaust and wastegates as well http://members.dslextreme.com/users/...11%20Turbo.jpg

Look I'm all into driveability, that's why I'm going with smallish Tial 2860RS. But a car that falls too flat on the high end just feels like it stops making power no matter how hard to rev it.

 

Question: since the 16/16Gs run out of steam earlier than the 18Gs, would it be advantageous to shift before redline? I know on some cars, you're putting more down at the ground by shifting early just because of the gear ratio * lb-ft math.. would this be the case now? Maybe even well before?

 

[quote=ari;2378190]That is a NICE garage!

I absolutely respect your opinion and see that you got exactly what you wanted in terms of more power and a stock like car.

There is NO way to get an additional 175HP with 16gs and a stock exhaust.quote]

It IS actually possible. A stock AWD car on a Mustang dyno makes around 340/370. A 16G car on the same dyno can make 500/520. That is a 160WHP increase and 150ftlb increase. Although these ARE peak numbers and the power WILL fall off fast, especially due to a stock exhaust. I don't think the K16's push enough air to be limited by the stock exhaust, although exhaust definitely helps a little.

 

It IS actually possible. A stock AWD car on a Mustang dyno makes around 340/370. A 16G car on the same dyno can make 500/520. That is a 160WHP increase and 150ftlb increase. Although these ARE peak numbers and the power WILL fall off fast, especially due to a stock exhaust. I don't think the K16's push enough air to be limited by the stock exhaust, although exhaust definitely helps a little.[/quote]


Yeah i agree. I aassume you are talking about SGM's car. The 18g has more area under the HP curve...

 

not to hijack but the guys that have the EPL k24/18 set up how do you like it? any of you come from the k16/16 set up to tell us the difference

 

I can tell you next week. I am going from K16/16g to 18G ...I know i will like it as i have driven my friends 18g car a couple of times and been in other 18g cars. I will still say a 16G turbo is great for the money. It just depends on your goals.

 

sounds good, I only want to do this once so I want to pick the right set up..

 

I understand...in that case i think you should do 18g if high end power is your liking. Also would thread with caution as you have the TIP. Do the Evoms TQ Conv first.

 

My 7 sec 60-130 pass was made while short shifting it at about 6200rpms.

 

evoms said TQ convertor not needed till you have above 725 lbs TQ