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Old May 13, 2009 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by vincentdds
So the 800rwhp M3 being pulled by the PE K24/20g?
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WOW! 620HP TT putting the smack down on a 800 hp M3? What he said ^^^^^^^

hahah well that was my low boost pump map about 615 to the rear wheels :-) no point in turning meth on when im already spinning and just doing some freindly runs also trying to get down my boost control...yes excuses excuses i know! BUT that being said why dont we do some fair runs from a higher speed roll and i can definitely say the outcome will be alot different :-) any of you guys wanna redo the runs im ready anytime just give me a call! ill be at VCR this sunday....i can turn my boost up to around 750 to the rear wheels with the flip of a switch and the car is completely different...here is a video on me on pump and meth running a few bikes the GSXR 1000 has a power commander and exhuast so you can clearly see the true power of the car when it actually hooks! Hope this clears things up a bit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0jYNqylHT4
 
Old May 13, 2009 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by bone_doc s4
NIce runs guys, but next time take it up to 140/150 at least, to be fair to Rob's Hpf car.

Thomas, did you run the proto 24/20 car? Have either of you done a vbox run?
I havent run Thomas yet but we will soon, we all get together on sundays. No vbox times for me. I dont know where to run the car at those speeds, i would like to though.
 
Old May 13, 2009 | 06:42 PM
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I havent run Thomas yet but we will soon, we all get together on sundays. No vbox times for me. I dont know where to run the car at those speeds, i would like to though.

Should only take 5 or 6 seconds or so, don't need a lot of room...950ft to accel and the same to decel...
 
Old May 13, 2009 | 06:46 PM
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hahah well that was my low boost pump map about 615 to the rear wheels :-) no point in turning meth on when im already spinning and just doing some freindly runs also trying to get down my boost control...yes excuses excuses i know! BUT that being said why dont we do some fair runs from a higher speed roll and i can definitely say the outcome will be alot different :-) any of you guys wanna redo the runs im ready anytime just give me a call! ill be at VCR this sunday....i can turn my boost up to around 750 to the rear wheels with the flip of a switch and the car is completely different...here is a video on me on pump and meth running a few bikes the GSXR 1000 has a power commander and exhuast so you can clearly see the true power of the car when it actually hooks! Hope this clears things up a bit
We all know your car is a beast Rob. I don't think anyone is trying to argue that. I guess we'll have to keep doing runs to test out the best settings for your car. I don't think turning up the boost will necessarily mean faster but we'll see. We'll get together again soon and make more videos, no reason to debate now. Did you ever get Will's video? The video from the outside of the car should be alot better then the one i posted.
 
Old May 13, 2009 | 06:57 PM
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hahah well that was my low boost pump map about 615 to the rear wheels :-) no point in turning meth on when im already spinning and just doing some freindly runs also trying to get down my boost control...yes excuses excuses i know! BUT that being said why dont we do some fair runs from a higher speed roll and i can definitely say the outcome will be alot different :-) any of you guys wanna redo the runs im ready anytime just give me a call! ill be at VCR this sunday....i can turn my boost up to around 750 to the rear wheels with the flip of a switch and the car is completely different...here is a video on me on pump and meth running a few bikes the GSXR 1000 has a power commander and exhuast so you can clearly see the true power of the car when it actually hooks! Hope this clears things up a bit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0jYNqylHT4
Whats up Rob, Good times bro. I just wanted to confirm that you did tell me you were running pump and meth that day, and we were both running about 20 psi of boost, i was on 100 oct. Lets get some guys to meet at vcr this sunday. Good times!
 
Old May 13, 2009 | 07:20 PM
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You guys are having too much fun now. Be careful out there. That part of Mexico is kind of sketchy.
 
Old May 13, 2009 | 08:16 PM
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We all know your car is a beast Rob. I don't think anyone is trying to argue that. I guess we'll have to keep doing runs to test out the best settings for your car. I don't think turning up the boost will necessarily mean faster but we'll see. We'll get together again soon and make more videos, no reason to debate now. Did you ever get Will's video? The video from the outside of the car should be alot better then the one i posted.
hehe we will see ;-) when i run methanol/higher boost it puts me at 750rwhp as apposed to 615rwhp so yes it does mean faster haha i have 4 set maps for my car...615rwhp and 750rwhp for pump and pump and meth...its also different when i run race fuel and meth...im not mad or anything i just kinda think the videos are useless because it was clear i couldnt do runs from 30mph that day or whatever we started at im just having fun..Some of the comments are negative towards me and i just wanted to clear it up no worries dude


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Whats up Rob, Good times bro. I just wanted to confirm that you did tell me you were running pump and meth that day, and we were both running about 20 psi of boost, i was on 100 oct. Lets get some guys to meet at vcr this sunday. Good times!

i did not run my meth with either of you i ran meth when i gave you a ride..im pretty sure if not either way if we find some SPACE to run where we can start from a higher speed then it will be better for me...also if i did run meth with you i forget but i also ran my SBBC which doesnt allow full boost till 80mph when its OFF haha so yeah i need higher speed to hook and not have to bother with SBBC(speed based boost control) they were just for fun everyone knows its useless for me to start a run from those speeds haha either way i had fun! just some of the comments bothered me and want to clear it up
 
Old May 13, 2009 | 08:39 PM
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I hate to keep this going back and forth but, I was also under the impression that you were running 91 and meth when we ran. Maybe I got it wrong too. I recall you saying you were on that day: when i was pumping 100, and when we stopped at the location. I hope you don't take this post or any post the wrong way. In my book these runs were clean, and in a 40-120 scenario these are the results. I look forward to future runs, and let's not keep going back and forth about these particular runs.
 
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I hate to keep this going back and forth but, I was also under the impression that you were running 91 and meth when we ran. Maybe I got it wrong too. I recall you saying you were on that day: when i was pumping 100, and when we stopped at the location. I hope you don't take this post or any post the wrong way. In my book these runs were clean, and in a 40-120 scenario these are the results. I look forward to future runs, and let's not keep going back and forth about these particular runs.

a "clean" run is the other car smoking the tires? i would have to disagree on that one..haha ok lets get this straight...i am ALWAYS on pump and meth because i have a tank in the engine bay that holds methanol and i also have an ON and OFF switch inside the car so with the flick of a switch i can go from 600rwhp to 750rwhp while still on 91pump..so yes when ppl ask i say im on "pump and meth" because technically i am it just depends if i turn the switch off or on...im not taking this post the wrong way im just starting to get kinda annoyed it seems like when i say "i was smoking the tires no traction and no meth" you dont believe me...so the results for a 600hp car vs a 615hp would pretty much look like the video you posted correct? so that must mean you didnt run me on meth and just my low boost because it seems like you dont believe me when i say this for the 3rd or so time for some reason? hahaha...if you would like ill also post my dyno sheet as well...im sorry if i come off rude here but you know we are all good friends i just want to make sure some ppl understand what im trying to say...the next time we run ill make sure i will hook and ill turn on meth maybe even bring some race gas we should do Mexico runs soon!!! THEN we can post those videos.

later man hope to see you soon!
 
Old May 13, 2009 | 10:08 PM
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oh also...didnt we all agree somewhat that the stretch we ran in was about an 1/8 mile? didnt you trap about 132mph on the 1/4 mile so how is it possible we got to 120-140 in not even an 1/8 mile? hahaha just saying i was just thinking about that now. But im done posting about this just wanted to make one last point..anyway later bro best of luck with your car
 
Old May 13, 2009 | 10:09 PM
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Honestly if you cannot put down the power changing the way the race is run until you are able seems silly no matter what you've got under the hood. Sounds like you need to work out some traction issues no matter what or cars with less horsepower are going to be pulling ahead. RaceLogic box maybe?

Would love to see a dyno sheet - been curious as to what the HPF guys have been up to. Their setup was on my last car (Supra) and I thought a turbo BMW was a pretty interesting idea when I checked out their site looking for Porsche stuff.
 
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Honestly if you cannot put down the power changing the way the race is run until you are able seems silly no matter what you've got under the hood. Sounds like you need to work out some traction issues no matter what or cars with less horsepower are going to be pulling ahead. RaceLogic box maybe?

Would love to see a dyno sheet - been curious as to what the HPF guys have been up to. Their setup was on my last car (Supra) and I thought a turbo BMW was a pretty interesting idea when I checked out their site looking for Porsche stuff.
true and thats why im extending the fenders by 2inches on each side to fit wider tires..should be doing it the start of summer hopfully

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oh also...didnt we all agree somewhat that the stretch we ran in was about an 1/8 mile? didnt you trap about 132mph on the 1/4 mile so how is it possible we got to 120-140 in not even an 1/8 mile? hahaha just saying i was just thinking about that now. But im done posting about this just wanted to make one last point..anyway later bro best of luck with your car
I wasn't going to post anything until you added this.

Did we start at 0? We started at 40. At any measure, we might think it is, its still purely an estimate. I will watch my video closely and try and figure out how many shifts there were.

This is the problem with dyno queens. Whats the point of all this power if you cannot put it down in a race? If you were "spinning" on low boost no meth, how will it be any better with more power? I tried to be respectful and objective but it seems you won't let this go. Certain situations will always favor one car; If we are talking in terms of fair, we should really start from a dead stop and take it to whatever you want. Since our cars are totally different, theres really no "fair". If you posted up your videos, you will see, you are not the only one with traction problems. Also, I'm not believing you in terms of meth or no meth. I'm simply stating what i recall.
 
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I didn't want this to happen. I don't want these videos to cause any problems. I will remove the videos. Please do not reply to this thread any more. Thank you for understanding.
 
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I wasn't going to post anything until you added this.

Did we start at 0? We started at 40. At any measure, we might think it is, its still purely an estimate. I will watch my video closely and try and figure out how many shifts there were.

This is the problem with dyno queens. Whats the point of all this power if you cannot put it down in a race? If you were "spinning" on low boost no meth, how will it be any better with more power? I tried to be respectful and objective but it seems you won't let this go. Certain situations will always favor one car; If we are talking in terms of fair, we should really start from a dead stop and take it to whatever you want. Since our cars are totally different, theres really no "fair". If you posted up your videos, you will see, you are not the only one with traction problems. Also, I'm not believing you in terms of meth or no meth. I'm simply stating what i recall.

So im a dyno queen? Thomas to be fair why would we start from a stop when you have awd?.. that doesnt make since at all...You really need to be respectful to me and watch your words
 

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