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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 02:33 AM
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Originally posted by ben, lj
And how is money spent on R&D and parts different? Is it still not $ pissed down the bottomless pit to still have a 996TT which competes with no one since it never runs?
since Rave asked how is it possible to sink that much money into this car, I was just making him aware of the fact that a lot of the money isn't something you can account for with a receipt or a part installed on the car.

I can't say I'd even bother with all the stuff Chad is doing, but as long as it make him happy I could care less if he wanted to **** fire on his money. His off-handed jabs got old a real long time ago, but he's not outside the boundaries of the site guidelines.
 
Old Oct 20, 2004 | 03:16 AM
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Originally posted by toddstacky
I wouldn't be worried about any stock Vipers or SL65's or the GT40 either. There won't be much aftermarket stuff available for the GT40 probably.

Whipple is already working on a supercharger upgrade. There will be plenty of upgrades available for the GT40. It's a modular ford v8
 
Old Oct 20, 2004 | 03:18 AM
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Originally posted by Rave TT
You can't be serious?? Why spend so much money on a twin turbo?

cause he can and will want to, no one can deny it running or not it's a platform most would dream of.
 
Old Oct 20, 2004 | 03:21 AM
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Originally posted by TT993
I think he deserves a lot of credit for going in uncharted waters. The path he is taking isnt the most economical or easiest but a great deal of knowledge will be gained. It's relatively easy to slap on an "EVO 700" kit or whatever but opening up the internals is a different step all together. The knowledge will open the door for many other 996TT owners down the road to follow his path. On the flip side if he talks big and produces nothing he better be ready to recieve some **** talk in return.

couldn't agree more. It's been a blast watching the build up over the last few years
 
Old Oct 20, 2004 | 03:22 AM
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Originally posted by Soon2be993tt
cause he can and will want to, no one can deny it running or not it's a platform most would dream of.
I wouldn't want it if it's not running or reliable, what good is that?
 
Old Oct 20, 2004 | 03:24 AM
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Originally posted by Rave TT
I wouldn't want it if it's not running or reliable, what good is that?

I don't think he's really had any reliability issues, They did let a motor go but they were fully aware they were running on thin ice and testing the limit's of the motor. (plus they had a spare motor built)
As far as not running, I think he's had plenty of fun w/ it. He's got a handfull of other fun cars to toy around w/ while he builds his dream 996TT
 
Old Oct 20, 2004 | 04:03 AM
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Originally posted by ben, lj
Maybe, but then it would actually run and there would be no excuses for getting your *** handed to you in one of the shoot outs you organize but don't participate in. Then you might not have the fastest car in NA on the track, dragstrip, and dyno which would negate your ability to incessantly talk **** on everyone elses cars.
Wow buddy, you really gotta relax. Read CJVs post again, do you know what sarcasm is? I have read and followed many of CJVs posts and he doesn't seem to be the type of guy that seems to go around talking sh*t. Plus don't forget your an internet forum. I admit it, sometimes I take things too seriously too, but you gotta remember this is just a fun place to read up on cars, not a pissing contest.

Also, you wouldn't believe the R&D costs of developing a kit. Just ask someone at a company like EVO how much it cost to develop a kit such as the EVO 700 kit. Given the kit is about $30,000, even if they plan on breaking even on 10 kits sold, that's $300,000 alone to cover costs. Now imagine not only paying for the trial and error process for more power, but also suspension, brakes, weight reduction, etc.. and I hope you can see how costs skyrocket instantly.

Back to the point of the thread, how fast is the Ford GT 40? 500hp and 500tq @ 3400 pounds is respectable but nothing insane like an EVO700. What am I missing?
 
Old Oct 20, 2004 | 04:31 AM
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LOL! I made fun of Chads $3,000,000 TT and got blasted, and now here we are again. I went into uncharted waters on a number of Porsches, and i didnt spend a fraction of what he's supposedly spent.
 
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Chad spent a lot of money on R&D, he essentially developed his own kit. As for not putting the power to the ground, have you seen the size of the tires he´s running? The fact remains that with the information he has put onto the net from the start you could build a high performance kit for a relatively small amount of money, but some people seem to rather bash him and his endeavor. He´s been working on the car since 2001 and has continuously surpassed the benchmarks for the maximum horsepower achieved by a 996tt engine. That´s why the car is constantly in the shop, because it´s getting better by the day. As for the dispute between EVO and Chad, it was about Garret Lim´s programming which removed the throttle body shutdown at 1.3 bar. They said it could be done, but only after the shootout. As it turns out, the ECU code would have to be completely rewritten, but you can imagine what Chad thought initially. No matter, Promotive sorted it out for him. Now, wouldn´t it be nice if we took all that hate and started a political discussion?
 
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Nothing wrong with a little trash talking especially when you spend multiple 6 figures developing a killer ride... I must have missed the actual shots he's taken at other's cars.... so many threads only so much time...

He definitely deserves credit for taking chances, regardless of how much he has to fall back on. I wish i knew what you all were talking about when it comes to the severity of his talk... all i can say is that Chad is a great guy, and a great Republican ally

Whipple Ford GT Supercharger... now THAT will be badass...

maybe Chad's ride will be prepped for a new shootout... As hopefully mine will... let's plan another shootout guys!!!(i don't stand a chance in hell)
 
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Originally posted by allanlambo
LOL! I made fun of Chads $3,000,000 TT and got blasted, and now here we are again. I went into uncharted waters on a number of Porsches, and i didnt spend a fraction of what he's supposedly spent.
but did any of them near the degree of chads project? His car isn't just about power, the suspension work he's done alone is far beyond anything else anyone on this board has attempted as far as I know
 
Old Oct 20, 2004 | 05:42 AM
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Originally posted by Parker

Whipple Ford GT Supercharger... now THAT will be badass...
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that's what i'm sayin. I recieved the info from a friend who knows the guys well, if in fact it's true (don't see why it wouldn't be because they already do a # of SC upgrades for the modular ford, i'll make sure to get dyno #'s
 
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Originally posted by ben, lj
And how is money spent on R&D and parts different? Is it still not $ pissed down the bottomless pit to still have a 996TT which competes with no one since it never runs?
Hey ben, lj ............. do you think you could have your 996 turbo and your pink slip ready by December? It really doesn't make any difference to me if any of my cars are seen running or not. I'm really surprised after all this time that you have not figured this out by now. Or maybe as you seem to suggest it is just a facade. There is one way for you to find out.
 

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for what it is worth.... thankyou cjv for sharing the info....

no doubt the car is being built for personal satisfaction.. but your continued dedication to the project is unbelievable...

please continue to post the updates
 
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Originally posted by cjv
Hey ben, lj ............. do you think you could have your 996 turbo and your pink slip ready by December? It's only money.
i don't have a turbo (don't like the weight and the AWD) but told you i'd race you for tiltes in my F150 last month. that stock truck would crush KA over 90% of the year since that's about how often it fails to run. for that matter, i have a bicycle that will kick KA's *** over 90% of the year.

 

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