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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 02:18 AM
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didn't tyson's 996tt break into the 10s in the TT shootout on about $20k in work? as far as i know, there have been no reliability or engine blow up issues with his car before or after he sold it.
You are basically correct other than the cost factor of the mods on his car. I cannot say exactly what they cost him (or Wilber more accurately), but having dealt with Protomotive myself I can tell you that you cannot replicate Tyson's car for anywhere near $20k.
 
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who is wilber?
 
Old Oct 21, 2004 | 02:35 AM
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Diminishing returns to it's fullest with the TT..
For 20-25K you can have about 650 reliable hp.
For around 30k you have have 700hp with the EVO kit, or less maybe??

Seems like anything over 700 reliable hp(!) you need to spend a lot, not just the bolt-on stuff for the 600-700hp.
Rods, head studs, etc...

So to get 750hp+ were talking big bucks!!
 
Old Oct 21, 2004 | 02:50 AM
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who is wilber?
Wilber is who (with Todd Knighton of Protomotive) designed and put together the car that Tyson bought.
 
Old Oct 21, 2004 | 03:30 AM
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Originally posted by john stephanus
Wilber is who (with Todd Knighton of Protomotive) designed and put together the car that Tyson bought.
Bought??
 
Old Oct 21, 2004 | 03:31 AM
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Bought??
Yes...my understanding is that he bought it from Wilber and then sold it later.
 
Old Oct 21, 2004 | 05:23 AM
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 06:07 AM
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Originally posted by john stephanus
Wilber is who (with Todd Knighton of Protomotive) designed and put together the car that Tyson bought.
ok but who is he, the way tyson talked about him before it seems he may be a tuner or engineer or something, something about him building a sl600?,
well i was just wondering if he is just some random guy or a tuner?
 
Old Oct 21, 2004 | 06:29 AM
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Originally posted by john stephanus
You are basically correct other than the cost factor of the mods on his car. I cannot say exactly what they cost him (or Wilber more accurately), but having dealt with Protomotive myself I can tell you that you cannot replicate Tyson's car for anywhere near $20k.
The car was bought by me from Wilber, retuned a few times at my request including software revisions, and exhaust modifications, and then sold after the Shootout.

I'm so sick and tired of arguing with people here about that car. I don't understand why we always seem to engage in the same pedantic topics, can't you guys think of anything new?

No one has ever claimed that car to run 0-60 in 2 seconds, nor was a G-Tech ever used to measure anything on that car. EC said the car runs 0-60 in 3.06 seconds and quarter in 10.74s. Take that info anyway you want but all you guys want to do is put the car down. Fine. But all the guys who were at the Shootout know how fast that car is, certainly faster than anything else that was there. If you look at the setup of the turbos on that car vs. all the other cars, it's not hard to see why.

Bottom line is Wilber or Protomotive build a very fast car. Period. You can go to either one and get great results. Even Chad uses Protomotive software.

Now I have a GT2, which I love very much. And that car will most likely go to Ruf for tuning.

That's all I'm saying on this matter. This topic is getting old. You know it's gotten pathetic when stupid kids who don't even own Porsches try to hate on you.
 
Old Oct 21, 2004 | 06:32 AM
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Yes...my understanding is that he bought it from Wilber and then sold it later.
John, as you know there is more to the story, but I'm tired of talking about it.
 
Old Oct 21, 2004 | 06:36 AM
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John, as you know there is more to the story, but I'm tired of talking about it.
Tyson,

Yes...I understand that. Was just trying to set the story straight.
 
Old Oct 21, 2004 | 06:40 AM
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I don't see anyone hating on you or that car

Seems to me everyone was giving it respect
 
Old Oct 21, 2004 | 07:26 AM
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Originally posted by sharkster
It wasn't yellow was it? Hmmm... 10.90 at 140mph lol? What kinda ****ty traction were you getting. With DRs you'd have been deep deep in the 10s.
There was no traction involved, it was just very easy out the hole, short shift 2nd, punch it, wait for boost and hold on. On DR's its run in the 9's at over 150mph.
 
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There was no traction involved, it was just very easy out the hole, short shift 2nd, punch it, wait for boost and hold on. On DR's its run in the 9's at over 150mph.

most of been fun, how was the lag? What size snail?
 
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Originally posted by Hamann7
The car was bought by me from Wilber, retuned a few times at my request including software revisions, and exhaust modifications, and then sold after the Shootout.

I'm so sick and tired of arguing with people here about that car. I don't understand why we always seem to engage in the same pedantic topics, can't you guys think of anything new?

No one has ever claimed that car to run 0-60 in 2 seconds, nor was a G-Tech ever used to measure anything on that car. EC said the car runs 0-60 in 3.06 seconds and quarter in 10.74s. Take that info anyway you want but all you guys want to do is put the car down. Fine. But all the guys who were at the Shootout know how fast that car is, certainly faster than anything else that was there. If you look at the setup of the turbos on that car vs. all the other cars, it's not hard to see why.

Bottom line is Wilber or Protomotive build a very fast car. Period. You can go to either one and get great results. Even Chad uses Protomotive software.

Now I have a GT2, which I love very much. And that car will most likely go to Ruf for tuning.

That's all I'm saying on this matter. This topic is getting old. You know it's gotten pathetic when stupid kids who don't even own Porsches try to hate on you.
Tyson,

What a few people don't seem to understand is........... "Here is thirty-five cents to call someone who cares." Remember all the sh%t you took because you never dyno'ed or posted a dyno number?
 

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