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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 05:14 PM
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Hey Mike,
So far with the Kevlar disc i havent had any sticking issues...will that tend to occur as the disc gets more worn in or only with extreme use for extended periods of time? The kevlar and the fibertuff are the same price. Why build a clutch with poorer performance(kevlar) for the same price(as fibertuff)?
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We are the Clutch Masters Stage 3 wizards I run one in my 997TT too. Here it is hung and ready to be rung!





Here is all the technical info too - http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/c...5-p-49671.html
 
Old Sep 8, 2009 | 06:13 PM
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Dan that looks like the one I have.Is it?
 
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You will... i had zero issues at the beginning of the season when it was installed. The harder I drove the car later in the season, the more issues I had... Here's the kicker, they had "just" released Fibertuff when I was having my kit built at Clutchmasters. Kevin advised me to do it, but I was hesitant, and now regret it. Yet another example of how that guy's advice has always been spot on.

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Hey Mike,
So far with the Kevlar disc i havent had any sticking issues...will that tend to occur as the disc gets more worn in or only with extreme use for extended periods of time? The kevlar and the fibertuff are the same price. Why build a clutch with poorer performance(kevlar) for the same price(as fibertuff)?
Avi
 
Old Sep 9, 2009 | 10:14 PM
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i have done a couple of these without resurfacing and its worked out just fine... also drove phillym5's tt with the spec 3+ clutch and it was manageable it will no doubt get the power to the ground the release is high but if u put in a clutch stop it works out well
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At a MINIMUM, it should be resurfaced, however, if it is a stock dual mass flywheel, it cannot be resurfaced, in which case, yes, you need a new one. Again, if you don't have one, you can go with a LWFW, which is cheaper and it can be re-surfaced next time. How a clutch "beds in" is critical to break in and life. Best to start with 2 clean surfaces...nature of the beast, sorry for the bad news...
 
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Vivid's website says the CM stage 3 kit can be used without resurfacing the flywheel and without breaking it in... Dan, can you comment on that?
 
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whats the big deal here? Resurfacing flywheel will cost like 100 bucks.
 
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You should not resurface the 996TT flywheel at all.
 
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Right, the flywheel cannot be resurfaced, but the Vivid site says the CM Stage 3 can be used without the need to resurface the DMFW or break it in...

"The kit can be used with the factory flywheel without doing a break in or resurfacing or you can upgrade to a light weight flywheel for great turbo spool and throttle response."

http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/c...5-p-49671.html

That is what I was wanting some comment on. I am hearing that you must ditch your DMFW and get a new one or get a LWFW that you can resurface in the future, but this conflicts with the Vivid site...

Just wondering which is right, etc.
 
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I personally have the clutch in my 997TT. In my 996TT I had the 8puck version. Both I run the stock dual mass. Not even replaced, the original one. Unless the flywheel is scorn, you dont need to replace it. The single mass flywheel we sell from Aasco or Clutch Masters is great to have the car rev quicker, but you will have some chatter when the clutch pedal is depressed. Most places recommend breaking in the clutch for 300 miles of normal driving. I installed mine, dynoed it, beat it, and still drive it daily and love it.
 
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Originally Posted by vividracing
You should not resurface the 996TT flywheel at all.
That's the first time i heard that one...my mechanic has done several cars and resurfaced them. Please explain why this should not be done.
 
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Several 996TT? They are not meant to be resurfaced.
 
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Originally Posted by vbmw335
That's the first time i heard that one...my mechanic has done several cars and resurfaced them. Please explain why this should not be done.
I heard the flywheel face is too thin or machining it will take it out of spec for thickness... Just with the dual mass. LWFW can be machined...
 


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