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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 11:06 PM
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Clutchmaster Level 3?

Was wondering if this is the setup everyone is running on their 700HP cars.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Clutc...Q5fAccessories
 
Old Sep 6, 2009 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by r34dy2walk
Was wondering if this is the setup everyone is running on their 700HP cars.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Clutc...Q5fAccessories

I wouldn't buy a clutch, for my car, off eBay, no offense. You NEVER know what is gonna show up at your door. Don't get swayed by, what may be a good price. BUY YOUR CLUTCH FROM A KNOWN SOURCE AND A KNOWN VENDOR HERE. You will have support if it isn't right...and it likely won't be right. My .02.
 
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I actually purchased a Brand new Stage 3 clutchmaster from a vendor here for cheaper! ... Havent installed it yet , still on stock clutch. But I have heard that full face Kevlar/Organic combination is the best way to go.
 
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Just installed a Spec 3+ in mine last night, havent driven it yet to be any help with impressions. I also installed the Epl Tial 3071 and should finish that up Monday.
 
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Looking forward to Spec3+ clutch! I need to buy one this week...
 
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I'd stay away from "kevlar" for the friction material. I have it on mine and we're experiencing "release" issues. The kevlar gets hot and sticks to the PP/FW, which is a problem when you want to "shift" and the disc is still "stuck" holding...

Clutchmasters does make a new friction material called Fibertuff that has the holding power of kevlar without the "stick" issues...

And I'd not in a million years buy the Spec setup... Drove it on Gunther's car and the clutch pedal was at the dash before lock-up. Apparently after breakin, the pedal travel is really high.

No thanks.

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I do have a Single disc Tilton 8.5" Tilton that holds 700rwtq, it's at BBi for Sale. PM me for details.
 
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Originally Posted by ttboost
I wouldn't buy a clutch, for my car, off eBay, no offense. You NEVER know what is gonna show up at your door. Don't get swayed by, what may be a good price. BUY YOUR CLUTCH FROM A KNOWN SOURCE AND A KNOWN VENDOR HERE. You will have support if it isn't right...and it likely won't be right. My .02.
Agreed TTboost.
I saw that same ad on ebay a week after i got mine.. Its about 150 bucks cheaper than a good vendor here. But i got exactly what i wanted, now its smooth after 500-600 miles, and puts all my 575 hp down beautifully. I can briefly get sideways with this clutch. Impressive.
 
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Originally Posted by Mikelly
I'd stay away from "kevlar" for the friction material. I have it on mine and we're experiencing "release" issues. The kevlar gets hot and sticks to the PP/FW, which is a problem when you want to "shift" and the disc is still "stuck" holding...

Clutchmasters does make a new friction material called Fibertuff that has the holding power of kevlar without the "stick" issues...

And I'd not in a million years buy the Spec setup... Drove it on Gunther's car and the clutch pedal was at the dash before lock-up. Apparently after breakin, the pedal travel is really high.

No thanks.

Mike
Mike , I purchased a Clutchmasters clutch with Fibertuff on the flywheel side and Kevlar on the other side, i was told this will be best setup for 700HP , street driving....any issues with this hybrid setup you know off?
 
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Originally Posted by BlueFVD-575
Agreed TTboost.
I saw that same ad on ebay a week after i got mine.. Its about 150 bucks cheaper than a good vendor here. But i got exactly what i wanted, now its smooth after 500-600 miles, and puts all my 575 hp down beautifully. I can briefly get sideways with this clutch. Impressive.
Who did you end up going with?

And thats 575 awhp? or crank?

If its awhp, i guess thats where I'll end up which is what i need.
 
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When you put a new clutch on, do you have to replace the flywheel? My local guy says they get hot and burned up and will need a new one every clutch change. My car only has 42k. Just curious - I only want to do this once for now!
 
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Originally Posted by raineycd
When you put a new clutch on, do you have to replace the flywheel? My local guy says they get hot and burned up and will need a new one every clutch change. My car only has 42k. Just curious - I only want to do this once for now!
At a MINIMUM, it should be resurfaced, however, if it is a stock dual mass flywheel, it cannot be resurfaced, in which case, yes, you need a new one. Again, if you don't have one, you can go with a LWFW, which is cheaper and it can be re-surfaced next time. How a clutch "beds in" is critical to break in and life. Best to start with 2 clean surfaces...nature of the beast, sorry for the bad news...
 
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At a MINIMUM, it should be resurfaced, however, if it is a stock dual mass flywheel, it cannot be resurfaced, in which case, yes, you need a new one. Again, if you don't have one, you can go with a LWFW, which is cheaper and it can be re-surfaced next time. How a clutch "beds in" is critical to break in and life. Best to start with 2 clean surfaces...nature of the beast, sorry for the bad news...
LOL Thanks!!! That is pretty much what he said, so there goes my budget for sway bars! Will have to make it through this track session with understeer! Oh well, better that than sitting out with a blown clutch!

Thanks again!
 
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Originally Posted by r34dy2walk
Who did you end up going with?

And thats 575 awhp? or crank?

If its awhp, i guess thats where I'll end up which is what i need.
Call Vivid. They'll get u what u need. Ive never had my car dynoed but i think my 575 is at the crank. My Clutchmasters stage 3 is excellent so far, as advertised. No slip. Its harder to be smooth in first compared to stock, but its been better as the miles come on. I havent put it thru the paces at the drag strip yet, but they say it'll hold up well to punishment.
 
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I don't think it matters, as long as you have it on the FW side... You have to be able to release the contact between the disc and the fw in order to have the drivetrain be happy, and I don't have that. According to Kevin, who supposedely pioneered this whole SACHs Clutch design and then took it to CLutchmasters way back in the day (His words, not mine), the kevlar gets hot and tacky and STICKS, which is great for holding. Not so great when you need to release. The Fibertuff material gives the best of both worlds... I'll have it in my car when the trans gets pulled and rebuilt starting next week!

Mike

Originally Posted by vbmw335
Mike , I purchased a Clutchmasters clutch with Fibertuff on the flywheel side and Kevlar on the other side, i was told this will be best setup for 700HP , street driving....any issues with this hybrid setup you know off?
 


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