Speedtech Y-Pipe, 2.5" hoses and EVO ICs
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john,
I still confuse about where 2 long 45degree bend Aluminum pipes go. If you could help? Thanks.
I still confuse about where 2 long 45degree bend Aluminum pipes go. If you could help? Thanks.
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This is a universal kit designed to work with any brand of intercoolers, so the aluminum pieces are trimmed to length per the installation. Only a small portion of the piping is ultimately used to make the transition upward from the IC to the silicon hose.
A small piece of silicon hose is used to attach to the IC. Then, the aluminum piece is trimmed and installed between the IC silicon hose and the longer boost hoses that run to the Y-pipe. Here is a picture that shows how the aluminum is used to tailor the angle upward to meet the Y-Pipe hose. This Y-Pipe has a 75mm exit opening - you can see how it flows straight into a 75mm throttle body without any restriction.
Originally Posted by John@SpeedTech
Zippy,This is a universal kit designed to work with any brand of intercoolers, so the aluminum pieces are trimmed to length per the installation. Only a small portion of the piping is ultimately used to make the transition upward from the IC to the silicon hose.
A small piece of silicon hose is used to attach to the IC. Then, the aluminum piece is trimmed and installed between the IC silicon hose and the longer boost hoses that run to the Y-pipe. Here is a picture that shows how the aluminum is used to tailor the angle upward to meet the Y-Pipe hose. This Y-Pipe has a 75mm exit opening - you can see how it flows straight into a 75mm throttle body without any restriction.
They are not that long when they are trimmed, they just come that way from our supplier. If you look at the picture - on the left side near the end of the hose, you will see a break in the hose with a hose clamp on each side of the break. The aluminum bend is inside the hose at this spot, making the angle or transition upward and the hose clamps are used to secure it. The other angle piece is used the same way on the opposite side, but is not shown in this picture.
Ari that's awesome. Have you had the wastegates checked for adjustment and any obstruction? This may be your problem. You can unplug them and see if you see more boost...just go easy though.
looking real good Ari. Who did the install?
Winfried,
You are going to have a wonderfully prepped GT2 with very well thought out and highly capable supporting mods. I'm excited for you to get her finished!
You are going to have a wonderfully prepped GT2 with very well thought out and highly capable supporting mods. I'm excited for you to get her finished!
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Okay now this has my attention! Can you speak more to this? Larger diameter? Less crush? Hard to install?Originally Posted by John@SpeedTech
Also, while on the subject of intake air plumbing - we recently sold a full intake kit with the hard pipes and I snapped a picture of the turbo intake hard piping. This is a superior product - take a look at the wall thickness of these inlet pipes. These are some seriously strong tubes. I have had mine on for 4 years/45,000 miles now and they are still like new. I feel very confident that these pipes will last the life of the car - they are much thicker and stronger than the OEM pipes they replace. If you have never held them or seen them in person, you would be really surprised at the quality and thickness of the material - it appears to be indestrucable. You will never have to worry about failure of these pipes - it's just not a concern at all...great peace of mind.<snip>
Now here's my geekiest question - done any testing to see if there's vac in them under hard boost? If they still represent a restriction they will read vac under boost as the turbo struggles to breathe through the straw. That simple test on a car making say 600-700HP would speak volums as to effectiveness! If someone did that before and after with yours and stock pipes it would really help make the sale IMO. Heck I've been all over your site and not noticed that kit anywhere - going to have to look again!
These are the EVO 70mm hard pipes. We have become an EVOMS distributor in order to offer the EVO intercoolers and hard pipes with our SpeedTech upper boost hoses and 75mm Y-Pipe kit such as Winfried and ARI have purchased.
The reason we offer these products is the EVO IC's have 2.5" inlets and outlets, which work perfectly with our Y-Pipe kit and I have used the hard pipes myself and I personally feel they are the best intake pipe solution in the market right now. I have always been nervous of the softer and thinner hose products on the market, as a puncture means debris gets sucked into the turbos - these pipes will not break or puncture. EVO has tested these pipes and they state they are good up to 1,000 HP+ applications, which covers most of us here. If you look at the length of the plastic pipes - it's not much different than the alternative fender style of turbo pipe intakes on the market and it's larger in diameter. I don't have any vacume figures, but these pipes have been used on cars that have set speed records, so they work.
Installation takes some time and the motor must be lowered. If the motor or trasmission has to be removed for other work, it would be the ideal time to do it. With the motor in and a lift, I feel it can be done in about 8 hours or less by a competent mechanic.
This complete kit with the Y-pipe, TB, Plenum, hard pipes and intercoolers is new for us and not on our web site yet, but we did announce it in the vendor classifieds -
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ouncement.html
If you would like pricing, please PM me. Everyone seems to require slightly different portions of the kit and I can get you a price on exactly what you need.
The reason we offer these products is the EVO IC's have 2.5" inlets and outlets, which work perfectly with our Y-Pipe kit and I have used the hard pipes myself and I personally feel they are the best intake pipe solution in the market right now. I have always been nervous of the softer and thinner hose products on the market, as a puncture means debris gets sucked into the turbos - these pipes will not break or puncture. EVO has tested these pipes and they state they are good up to 1,000 HP+ applications, which covers most of us here. If you look at the length of the plastic pipes - it's not much different than the alternative fender style of turbo pipe intakes on the market and it's larger in diameter. I don't have any vacume figures, but these pipes have been used on cars that have set speed records, so they work.
Installation takes some time and the motor must be lowered. If the motor or trasmission has to be removed for other work, it would be the ideal time to do it. With the motor in and a lift, I feel it can be done in about 8 hours or less by a competent mechanic.
This complete kit with the Y-pipe, TB, Plenum, hard pipes and intercoolers is new for us and not on our web site yet, but we did announce it in the vendor classifieds -
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ouncement.html
If you would like pricing, please PM me. Everyone seems to require slightly different portions of the kit and I can get you a price on exactly what you need.
see the picture from the removed pipes, you have to lower the engine and cut the pipes
the pipes are very restrictive and my wifes vacuum cleaner have a better designed intake
the pipes are very restrictive and my wifes vacuum cleaner have a better designed intake
Speed Gallery did the install. I have been very happy with the general service and price over the past 5 years or so.
About a week of seat time and the thing screams. It REALLY spins the tires so harrd in 2nd that the car gets sideaways (without popping the clutch, just pure torque). I have to let off sometimes if don't countersteer enough.
All this while still generally limited to 1.2 BAR. Going to try tightening the wastegates tomorrow to see if we can see the full 1.4 BAR.
Someone with 24/18g turbos tell me if your turbos spool this hard?
Sam: let's hook up for test driving each other's cars...
About a week of seat time and the thing screams. It REALLY spins the tires so harrd in 2nd that the car gets sideaways (without popping the clutch, just pure torque). I have to let off sometimes if don't countersteer enough.
All this while still generally limited to 1.2 BAR. Going to try tightening the wastegates tomorrow to see if we can see the full 1.4 BAR.
Someone with 24/18g turbos tell me if your turbos spool this hard?
Sam: let's hook up for test driving each other's cars...
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Originally Posted by paneraiwatches
looking real good Ari. Who did the install?
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Yup. traction issues in 3rd and 4th too. I need to keep my PSM off all the time, to be able to accelerate to redline in any gear without hesitation.Originally Posted by ari
Someone with 24/18g turbos tell me if your turbos spool this hard?