996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 06:02 PM
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Heating up the tranny definitely helps shifting

Originally Posted by jcb-memphis
You mean Porsche Cup Car kit (about 1K$)? Or just the oem 996 ssk...which is what I have. Funny thing, I took the car to a DE and I swear the shifting in the unit is better, smoother. Anyone notice that DE makes the car happier?

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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 07:16 PM
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996 stock = the suck
996SSK = B&M same product shorter but notchy

997 shifter better then above (200$ ish new)

997 SSK better then both above (400$ ish new)


dont know where the 996 cup shifter fits in here though
theres also a RUF shifter that not many know about either
 
Old Dec 20, 2009 | 07:35 PM
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I have to disagree here... I owned a B&M and it is in no way, shape or form remotely close to the actuation of the 996SSK... No way, no how.

The B&M is garbage.
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Originally Posted by OS Inspector
996 stock = the suck
996SSK = B&M same product shorter but notchy

997 shifter better then above (200$ ish new)

997 SSK better then both above (400$ ish new)


dont know where the 996 cup shifter fits in here though
theres also a RUF shifter that not many know about either
 

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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 07:57 PM
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the 996ssk from porsche is made by b&M
 
Old Dec 20, 2009 | 07:59 PM
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now if it was not installed properly it wont act the same and also different shift links make a big difference for the record i have a b&m and dont like the way it shifts into 2nd gear

200$ is better spent ona 997 shifter or get one used from someone who has upgraded to a 997ssk
 
Old Dec 20, 2009 | 08:42 PM
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Anyway...days after the DE the shifting is better....

And, once DAS did my tranny, they got the shifter in post the "big job" and it was way better, so I have to say that a guru can make the 996 SSK smooth as butter. Probably a hard thing to do, but it can be done. That is the case in my car right now...

Now, that 997 GT3 options SSK sounds interesting...

or the Cup option. 1k for the latter or more.

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Old Dec 21, 2009 | 05:43 AM
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This is news to me... I had no idea that Porsche contracted B&M to make their Porsche Short shift Kit...Where might we find this information.

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Old Dec 21, 2009 | 07:00 AM
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hold a 996SSK and B&M in your hand at the same time are the same piece just no b&m stamp mike, install makes all the difference in how it works. i found the info searching on here and then looking at them, i do not remember which thread i found it in though Mike
 
Old Dec 21, 2009 | 07:26 AM
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It looks like the 2010 GT3 ssk might be the best option. I have been talking with Suncoast & it seems that the 2010 GT3 shifter is priced better than the 997 ssk,plus the GT3 has metal bushings,the 997 has the plastic.
 
Old Dec 21, 2009 | 07:55 AM
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whats the price paulie dont hold out on us now
 
Old Dec 21, 2009 | 09:10 AM
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Here is the info I can tell you about the stock ones.
  • 997 Version - Easy upgrade for 996/986 owners. Smoother shifts, slightly reduced throw compared to the 9X6 versions.
  • 997 GT3 Version (2010) - Same as the standard 997 version, but has metal bushings instead of plastic (these bushings are for the left-to-right pivot). This is not a short shift kit, it has identical shift throw as the stock 997 version. The reinforced bushings are probably ideal for racing.
  • 997 Short Shifter - Smoother shift and reduced throw. I would consider this kit the best one available on the planet (for reliability, quality, and preformance gains). I don't think this is made by B&M, I'm pretty certain this is 100% Porsche. The guts do not resemble the B&M or the older 996 Short Shifter.
  • 996 Short Shifter - This version may have been a repackaged B&M kit. It looks identical to the B&M, but was powder-coated black instead of blue. Unlike the 997 versions, this one would take more time to install, and you have to diassemble the shift console assembly for installation.

Some of the benefits of the 997 factory kits (over B&M):
  • Warranty friendly (if applicable)
  • Come with gear mechanism and shift console assembly - makes installation simple, a quick bolt-on and clip-on installation.
  • Comes with alignment tool, so the shifter will be perfectly aligned.


Hope this info helps, happy holidays!
 
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Old Dec 21, 2009 | 09:20 AM
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Ric,

Can you please PM me a price for the 997 SSK and the GT3 version?
 
Old Dec 21, 2009 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by suncoastric
Here is the info I can tell you about the stock ones.
  • 997 Version - Easy upgrade for 996/986 owners. Smoother shifts, slightly reduced throw compared to the 9X6 versions.
  • 997 GT3 Version (2010) - Same as the standard 997 version, but has metal bushings instead of plastic (these bushings are for the left-to-right pivot). This is not a short shift kit, it has identical shift throw as the stock 997 version. The reinforced bushings are probably ideal for racing.
  • 997 Short Shifter - Smoother shift and reduced throw. I would consider this kit the best one available on the planet (for reliability, quality, and preformance gains). I don't think this is made by B&M, I'm pretty certain this is 100% Porsche. The guts do not resemble the B&M or the older 996 Short Shifter.
  • 996 Short Shifter - This version may have been a repackaged B&M kit. It looks identical to the B&M, but was powder-coated black instead of blue. Unlike the 997 versions, this one would take more time to install, and you have to diassemble the shift console assembly for installation.
I do not believe this to be completely accurate. The 997 regular shifter and the 997 GT3 shifter do not have the same throw. The 997 GT3 shifter is a short shifter. I have a B&M unit (996/997) in my 997 turbo, and had a 997GT3 factory shifter. They both had the same approximate throw but the GT3 shifter was MUCH notchier than the B&M unit. I did the B&M install myself. The factory 997 turbo shifter and standard 997 shifter have about 30-40% longer throw.
 
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Paulie, have the factory installed 997 SSK, you are welcome to try it out sometime .
 
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Thanks guys I went ahead and ordered the 997 SSK. I'm going by Moterwerks today to check out a 997 SSK.
 


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