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F430 0-60 in 3.5 sec 11.7 quarter mile

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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by tdf360
Well, we don't know that yet. I'm eagerly awaiting the first test.

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In the end does it really matter???? I would still take the 430 even if it was 2 seconds slower than the vette 0-60.
 
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I second that.
 
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I heard 3.3 0 to 60, I would take the 430 if it was 10 seconds slower
 
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My goal in life has become to own one of these in the next 3 years...
 
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Originally posted by Tpup
The kerb weight of the 430, listed on Ferrari's website, is 3,197...

Is the 3,500 the weight as tested??

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483hp and 3200lbs (curb weight) will pull an 11.7s 1/4 mile. That sounds about dead-on. Think back to what the newest gen GT2 runs. I wonder what the trap speed is...perhaps 120-122mph?

Think about 510hp on the 911 turbo:

You can run close to an 11.7 s 1/4 mile with an '01 911 turbo with chip/exhaust, and 3400lbs (curb weight).
 
Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:04 PM
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483hp and 3200lbs (curb weight) will pull an 11.7s 1/4 mile. That sounds about dead-on. Think back to what the newest gen GT2 runs. I wonder what the trap speed is...perhaps 120-122mph?


Trap speed was 121.1. Doesn't the Gallardo weigh about the same though?
 
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Originally posted by rockitman
The clutch needed to be replaced after that 0-60 run.... :-)
Actually, the car is equipped with "LC" Launch Control. Same results every time. That's "stop light" fun!!
 
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Originally posted by Soon2be993tt
there never has been proof of manufacturers sending rigged cars, it's always been speculation
It depends on what "rigged" means.

The first magazine test of the Ford GT recorded a 0-60 time of around 3.3 sec. The magazine and Forums out there were falling all over themselves (death to the European sports cars, American technology at it's finest, etc) ...a 500 hp car doing 0-60 in the low threes. We later find out Ford wasn't exactly telling the truth about the "500" horsepower...it was more like 550...and that was at the wheels.

That's a "rigged" car in my opinion.
 
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Originally posted by Dock (Atlanta)
It depends on what "rigged" means.

The first magazine test of the Ford GT recorded a 0-60 time of around 3.3 sec. The magazine and Forums out there were falling all over themselves (death to the European sports cars, American technology at it's finest, etc) ...a 500 hp car doing 0-60 in the low threes. We later find out Ford wasn't exactly telling the truth about the "500" horsepower...it was more like 550...and that was at the wheels.

That's a "rigged" car in my opinion.

but aren't all the GT's going to be setup exactly the same? I heard rumors that they changed pulleys' and such bet nothing was proven.

Old SS ls1 camaros were factory rated at 325 hp but were laying down 330ish to the wheels. Does that mean they were "rigged"


To me rigged is cranking up the boost beyond what the cars will be sold with, I don't think this was proven w/ the GT's
 
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Trap speed was 121.1. Doesn't the Gallardo weigh about the same though?
From what most pages say, yes. I would think that the car weighed closer to 3500lbs, but if they say it weighs 3150lbs then so be it.
 
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Originally posted by Soon2be993tt
To me rigged is cranking up the boost beyond what the cars will be sold with, I don't think this was proven w/ the GT's
Ford had not decided what power they wanted to end up with when the first test(s) happened. They claimed 500 hp when they knew it had more.

BTW, I think manufacturers should claim accurate power numbers.
 
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I agree. BMW claims 282 on my 540, but I get 277 to the wheels..
 
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Re: Re: F430 0-60 in 3.5 sec 11.7 quarter mile

Originally posted by ben, lj
i think most of us have concluded the F430 with 170 less hp can't run with an Enzo even if R&T says so. Wasn't this the "downhill" test that wasn't even a full 1/4 but was "calculated" on a portion of one anyway.
They never said it did run with the Enzo. The Enzo is still much faster.

Its probley closer to 3.6-3.7 then 3.5 but its definently very fast espacially with launch control in race mode.

I want to see other tests, There where no down hill tests of the F430.
 
Old Dec 15, 2004 | 05:09 PM
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Re: Re: Re: F430 0-60 in 3.5 sec 11.7 quarter mile

Originally posted by Ferrarislave
They never said it did run with the Enzo. The Enzo is still much faster.

Its probley closer to 3.6-3.7 then 3.5 but its definently very fast espacially with launch control in race mode.

I want to see other tests, There where no down hill tests of the F430.
Oh sure, the F430 will run with the CGT. What's an extra 125 hp anyway.
 
Old Dec 15, 2004 | 05:12 PM
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Originally posted by rockitman
In the end does it really matter???? I would still take the 430 even if it was 2 seconds slower than the vette 0-60.
Much as I love the 430, and I'm on the list for one, if the Z06 is 0-60 in 1.5 sec, I'd have to take a close look at it!

Gary
 


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