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Old Jan 17, 2010 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by STEVE KOJASEVIC
its all a myth
No it's not.
 
Old Jan 17, 2010 | 07:46 PM
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yeah steve...I hit 1.2 boost backing out of my garage....LOL
 
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Steve, 2 years of abuse doesn't mean your car will go up in flames, it does mean your car is more likely NOT to last as long as others. In the grand scheme of things you may not see any ill results from it, but most of us who visit these forums treat our cars like we actually care about them. We know these motors are strong, but your cold abuse combined with maintenance abuse could bite you someday.
 
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I think Steve is mad at his bearings...
 
Old Jan 17, 2010 | 08:00 PM
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Aren't you rebuilding your engine tho McLovin?
 
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Steve, 2 years of abuse doesn't mean your car will go up in flames, it does mean your car is more likely NOT to last as long as others. In the grand scheme of things you may not see any ill results from it, but most of us who visit these forums treat our cars like we actually care about them. We know these motors are strong, but your cold abuse combined with maintenance abuse could bite you someday.
Letting the RPMs rev in neutral doesn't put any load on the engine.
Letting the car warm up in the garage doesn't put any load on the engine either.
Driving in cold in the low RPM range does put load on the engine.

So which is worst?
 
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Aren't you rebuilding your engine tho McLovin?
I seem to recall the same thing! Now we know why!
 
Old Jan 17, 2010 | 08:27 PM
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I also let it sit for a few minutes and then drive it under 2500 rpm. This is done until the oil gauge is between 1.5 to 2 when the car is at idle....NOT as soon as the coolant is at ~180.
 
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Originally Posted by bbywu
Letting the RPMs rev in neutral doesn't put any load on the engine.
Letting the car warm up in the garage doesn't put any load on the engine either.
Driving in cold in the low RPM range does put load on the engine.

So which is worst?
Why is load important to you? Warm up is about oil temperature and metallurgy, neither of which require "load". The lower the load during the warm up the better.
 
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Originally Posted by STEVE KOJASEVIC
i turn my car on, immediately pull out of my driveway while the car still is in cold start
(idling very loud at 1200 rpm)
i then proceed to drive down 1 block, engage in a controlled powerslide and red line first and 2nd gear while getting onto the expressway

have been doing this for 2 years now

ive never warmed up any of the cars ive ever owned
its all a myth
Steve,
I think you should just stop posting...
 
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Originally Posted by bbywu
Letting the RPMs rev in neutral doesn't put any load on the engine.
Letting the car warm up in the garage doesn't put any load on the engine either.
Driving in cold in the low RPM range does put load on the engine.

So which is worst?
This makes sense. I've been doing it for 40 years and never had a engine go bad. Let it warm up before you drive it.
 
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worst case scenerio you bake your turbos from not cooling down properly. How much are new turbos, and is that all that would need to be replaced?

Originally Posted by ttboost
The "cool down" for turbos is to prevent "coking" of the turbos, which is the oil baking on the inside of the turbos which are still very hot, even with the water.
 
Old Jan 18, 2010 | 07:03 AM
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Was Steve being sarcastic?

I wait for the high blowing noise to stop, drive easy until warm, and let it rest 2 minutes after every single drive. Exceptions are when I move it to wash it in and out of the garage...

 
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Here in NWA we get everything from 1 degree temp like last week ( that was w/out wind chill ) to 100+ degree temp in the summer. I have a 996 T DD and on the real cold days I let it warm up a little ( 2 min or so ) then drive it under 3000 RPM till the engine is at running temp. I let the car sit at idle for 2+ min for cool down unless I have been driving at a slow speed for 4 or 5 min just prior to parking it.
It was the same for my 01 Dodge 3/4 ton Diesel that was pushing 500hp. You wanted to let the oil cool down for the bearings on the Turbo is what I was told from the guys who drive the big rigs and put more miles on their turbos then this forum as a whole. I trusted them and never had a problem w/ 200,000 miles on the truck when I sold it.
I will say, most everything I know about cars and HP doesn't apply to this 996 T. I did read a good article the other day from an engine MFG that suggested to just start the car and drive it right away. But take it easy till you get the engine up to running temp. That seems to be the consensus here as well. I feel I'm a little different then the average owner.
1. I drive it sun, rain, sleet, snow, and ice.
2. I check the oil weekly.
3. I check the tire pressure and torque on the lug bolts weekly as well.
 
Old Jan 18, 2010 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bbywu
Letting the RPMs rev in neutral doesn't put any load on the engine.
Letting the car warm up in the garage doesn't put any load on the engine either.
Driving in cold in the low RPM range does put load on the engine.

So which is worst?
Driving in the cold at low RPM (< 4k), but low engine load (not lugging the engine) is best. The oil will come to operating temperature MUCH sooner than idling, which is best for emissions, fuel economy, and oil life.

Personally, I let the engine idle for 1-2 minutes, then start driving gingerly. Modern engines will reach full operating temp at around 15-20 minutes.

///Michael
 


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