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Lowering Springs without Shocks?

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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 07:39 AM
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Lowering Springs without Shocks?

I wouldn't mind giving the car a slight drop for appearance, but don't want to mess around with the suspension geometry. I've seen other cars dropped on springs and had the ride destroyed. (My buddy's old E36 M3 comes to mind.) What's the consensus on dropping a Turbo. Do certain adjustments need to be done to existing hardware, do you need additional hardware, or is this just not suggested? Any pics of a car dropped with springs, on stock wheels, would also be appreciated. Thanks.
 
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You will need to have the car re-aligned after lowering it. You could upgrade other suspension components but it's not necessary for a street driven car.

From what I've read on this board, I would stay away from H&R springs as they are known to sag. Get the ones from GMG, very high quality.
 
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I had this question when I first got my car. Pretty much everyone told me is not the greatest idea to just drop the car by springs. I would assume your ride needs new shocks soon anyway, if not already...might as well go coil-overs and be done with it.
 
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Originally Posted by beckham23
I had this question when I first got my car. Pretty much everyone told me is not the greatest idea to just drop the car by springs. I would assume your ride needs new shocks soon anyway, if not already...might as well go coil-overs and be done with it.
Can shocks go if they aren't being used, but are under weight? My '03 only has 6K miles on it, so I'm assuming the shocks are good for a while longer.
 
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99% of people on here will tell you to get coilovers. A search will turn up a few cases where springs didn't work out very well. I think one of them was using H&Rs. I think they can actually do damage to the shock and will sag over time.
 
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If you are happy with the way your car feels and handles, with only 6000 miles, I wouldn't change the shocks. Just buy quality lowering springs if you just want the look.

Most guys change to coilovers because they are not happy with the stock set-up. That's why I did it.
 
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boss351 has some springs on his car and it handles wonderfully, i know bmoores has some too dont hear any complaints from them.
 
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Originally Posted by seth_horwitz
I wouldn't mind giving the car a slight drop for appearance, but don't want to mess around with the suspension geometry. I've seen other cars dropped on springs and had the ride destroyed. (My buddy's old E36 M3 comes to mind.) What's the consensus on dropping a Turbo. Do certain adjustments need to be done to existing hardware, do you need additional hardware, or is this just not suggested? Any pics of a car dropped with springs, on stock wheels, would also be appreciated. Thanks.
No No No a thousand times no. Lowering springs are not matched to the struts. Your car will be a total poser that handles worse than stock. The cost of labor is the same to replace struts and springs as it is to replace just the springs. If you're on a budget, get some PSS10. If your running stock 18" wheels and tires you may be able get an decent alignment if you don't drop it too far. Otherwise you'll need adjustable rear upper control arms (dog bones) and toe links to dial out the rear tire eating negative camber. You may also need adjustable sway bar drop links. In the long run it's much cheaper to do it with all the right parts once and save on the labor. Once the struts are out, its only an extra hour to put all these other parts in.
 

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