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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 10:54 AM
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Electronic Boost Control?

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I was trying to scour some of the signatures and read up on the daily application of such a system. Is electronic boost control something that the community recommends as an application? As I stated before I was going to get the car up to around 650HP at the crank, probably running around 1.1 or 1.2 bar in boost. The car will not be a complete track car, I also will utilise it to get me to work in summer when it rains (I use the bicycle when it does not). I was wondering whether electronic boost control would make that daily driving experience a better one, since I would assume that full boost would not be reached at part throttle then? My other car is N/A so I am still learning about FI, please do go gentle on me. Thank you!
 
Old Feb 8, 2010 | 11:13 AM
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I don't know much about the systems used on the 996TT, but here's a quick and dirty overview on EBC's...

An EBC will allow you to add more boost and do some neat things with how boost is delivered, but they will not allow you to dial the boost back below the setting at the WG. What this means is if your wastegate(s) are mechanically set to 1 bar, the EBC will not allow you to set the boost below that level, at part throttle or at WOT. With that said, you can install weaker WG springs, say .7 bar, and then use the EBC to add boost above this setting when you want it. When the EBC is turned off (or bypassed), you fall back to the mechanical settings within the WG.

If you decide to start playing around with boost levels, make sure your car is tuned for the full range of boost settings you plan on using with the EBC!
 
Old Feb 8, 2010 | 11:55 AM
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for 650 crank HP you do not need a boost controler, you can achieve that on pump gas...

Boost controlers are good if your looking for a good amount of power, and using race gas so you can bump the boost up..


also if your not to familiar with boost controlers and FI in general , i would not recomend it because you can blow your motor.

your last comment does not make any sence.... you cant not reach full boost at partial throttle(EB will not change that) .. just like a NA car you can achieve max power at part throttle..
 
Old Feb 8, 2010 | 11:56 AM
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Taking away DME controlled boost eliminates the ability for the car to go into a true "limp mode" if dangerous running conditions are detected. This is by far the largest safety system the DME has.... Why remove it?

I dont recommend EBC's on any of the cars we tune.
 
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Thank you. I must have misread some of the information I came across. I was under the impression that a chipped car can reach full boost at part throttle under certain conditions. Since that is not the case my main concern has just been removed. Thank you again.
 
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Some prefer boost controllers like I for certain applications, its a nice thing to have if you know how to use it... it allows one to turn up the boost lets say from 1.1 bar to 1.3 bar and gain appx. 60hp if you run 100 octane on those spirited day. ....
However, you can achieve your goal without it as well..
As far as safety goes if the enc fails the car just runs simply wg spring just like in limp mode
It comes down to you and the tuner you choose...
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Originally Posted by Tony@epl
Taking away DME controlled boost eliminates the ability for the car to go into a true "limp mode" if dangerous running conditions are detected. This is by far the largest safety system the DME has.... Why remove it?

I dont recommend EBC's on any of the cars we tune.
Why remove it ? cuase some people like the ability to choose their desired boost levels on the fly especialy when running race gas ..
 
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