996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by MARKSKI@911tuning
You possibly may but I don't even know lol the point is it's not a off the shelf set up.
I know. That's why I call it them "hybrids".
 
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Scott look at the wheels...i think
 

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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by unvmy996
Scott look at the wheels...i think
Yes look at the wheel size not the housing... they are totally different...
 
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Originally Posted by unvmy996
Hmm... when i saw a few other places dynoing p cars,like EVOMS , they put fans right at the side duct/inlets and infront of the car also...

this way i see on the vid it doesnt seem that there is any air going into the intercoolers and in scotts case no air really hitting his filters ?
I don't know what you were looking at? There were 2 big fans right on the intercoolers you can see in the video, plus 2 just like them (maybe you can't see in the video) in front of the car on the radiators and one big fan in the rear on the engine also that you can't see in the video. There was a total of 5 fans on the car.
 
Old Mar 10, 2010 | 08:13 PM
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Is it just the camera angle or the nose of the car on the dyno under another car on a lift?
 
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Originally Posted by jamie furman
I don't know what you were looking at? There were 2 big fans right on the intercoolers you can see in the video, plus 2 just like them (maybe you can't see in the video) in front of the car on the radiators and one big fan in the rear on the engine also that you can't see in the video. There was a total of 5 fans on the car.
i see the two fans on the back of the intercoolers , but they are just cooling the intercoolers, their are not any fans on the SIDE of the car on the inlets where the air is suppose to go through , and in scotts case thats crucial especially since his inatkes are located right there also ...

I did not see a fan in back of the car !! but i did see the two front fans on the radiators ..
 

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Fans those feeded to ICs would do the job for fender intakes. Real world driving, air feed though side ducts to Scot's intakes&ICs and out at side bottom vents. On dyno they reverse it. They put fan blow from side bottom vents as it is easier for placement and blow out though side vents. Now intake air zips air after pass ICs. Temp might me little higher but if there was strong flow from fans, it is small value.
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i see the two fans on the back of the intercoolers , but they are just cooling the intercoolers, their are not any fans on the SIDE of the car on the inlets where the air is suppose to go through , and in scotts case thats crucial especially since his inatkes are located right there also ...
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Originally Posted by unvmy996
i see the two fans on the back of the intercoolers , but they are just cooling the intercoolers, their are not any fans on the SIDE of the car on the inlets where the air is suppose to go through..
If one fan feeds side bottom vents for IC and one fan feeds side of the car, they will push each other. No air will be moving much though the path. Think about one pipe with one fan at each end. There will not be much flow but build pressure instead. It won't be bad for intake but bad for IC performance as it needs good flow to carry heat away.
 
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Meh, for the way his car is setup fans blowing down on the sides would have worked best but really between runs spray them with a mix of rubbing alcohol and water and they will cool down well between runs. I really don't think "real world" is what's needed here but rather something repeatable. If this test wasn't ideal and perfect with leaf blowers forcing important parts and the next test WAS then yeah that might not be good. But I expect they will do the next runs close to how they did these and it will be apples to apples. It's not a laboratory guys and he's just looking to see gains for peace of mind and his own interest not specifically test parts to perfection to satisfy us...
 
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Old Mar 11, 2010 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by BLKMGK
Meh, for the way his car is setup fans blowing down on the sides would have worked best but really between runs spray them with a mix of rubbing alcohol and water and they will cool down well between runs. I really don't think "real world" is what's needed here but rather something repeatable. If this test wasn't ideal and perfect with leaf blowers forcing important parts and the next test WAS then yeah that might not be good. But I expect they will do the next runs close to how they did these and it will be apples to apples. It's not a laboratory guys and he's just looking to see gains for peace of mind and his own interest not specifically test parts to perfection to satisfy us...
The car isnt running any intercooler ducting so putting a fan at the side intake of the car likely wouldnt prove very efficient.

Placing fans on the bottom side of the coolers directs air directly at them...
 
Old Mar 11, 2010 | 08:08 AM
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Casey do you mind posting up the dyno graph? I'd love to see how much faster these turbos spool then my billets. Hell if you want to email me (chris at markiiisys.com) the dyno run file I'll overlay mine at the same boost (12-13psi sustained). I've been told these turbos are damn quick spooling and they sound like it, but I want to see how much I'm missing out on the spool.
 

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Old Mar 11, 2010 | 08:12 AM
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Dynos will be posted and overlaid when we are finished.

I have a surprise coming soon.
 
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Intercoolers are ready to go on... Will be happening this afternoon.











 
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It's not a laboratory guys and he's just looking to see gains for peace of mind and his own interest not specifically test parts to perfection to satisfy us...
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