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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 07:01 PM
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Originally posted by collin996tt
That's why mercedes mount their bumpers on the ML's lower to match normal car levels. It reduces damage/insurance cost to other motorists.

Headlights and fenders can't match a bumper. Now try getting rear ended by another SUV with equal height bumper then we'll see what really happens.
It's not my concern to reduce costs to other motorists, especially if they are rear-ending me. In insurance company terms, the car hitting the other from behind is always at fault. I do think the size discrepancy thing is a bit overblown since the safety levels of modern cars, even really cheap ones is way better than 30 years ago when there were just as heavy cars lurking around.
 
Old Jan 1, 2005 | 11:51 PM
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Originally posted by Red Devil
It's not my concern to reduce costs to other motorists, especially if they are rear-ending me. In insurance company terms, the car hitting the other from behind is always at fault.
That's a narrow way of thinking. The other car's insurance company can be same as yours. Don't think you will never rear end someone else. When it happens, you'd hope that bumper will meet bumper to reduce damage to car and occupants, especially if there are old/young passengers in the rear of the other car.

Your bumper is not meant to be a ramming device.
 
Old Jan 2, 2005 | 06:45 AM
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Originally posted by collin996tt
That's a narrow way of thinking. The other car's insurance company can be same as yours. Don't think you will never rear end someone else. When it happens, you'd hope that bumper will meet bumper to reduce damage to car and occupants, especially if there are old/young passengers in the rear of the other car.

Your bumper is not meant to be a ramming device.
Collin, let me tell you one thing, the insurance company will come out ahead no matter what happens, no matter who's fault it is and even if we/they can reduce costs, they will NEVER pass the savings off to you or me. Now that being said, I am concerned for the well-being of people on the road and believe the best way to achieve safety is through better product, education of the drivers and better management of the volume of traffic we have. While I don't consider my bumper a ramming device, there was some degree of satisfaction in all the damage that occured to the other guy's car, justified by the fact that I was just sitting stopped at a light and for whatever reason, he hit me. Because he wasn't paying attention, spilled his drink, answered his phone or just spaced out it isn't my problem. I'm just glad my (BIG) truck was in his way rather than my wife and kids in another car, my Turbo or worse yet, a pedestrian in the crosswalk. Regulating the size of vehicles isn't the answer my friend, it's the people behind the wheel and that will always be the case.
 
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lovely color
 
Old Jan 2, 2005 | 11:32 AM
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Congrats! Although, the original HUMMER aka H1 is still better
 
Old Jan 2, 2005 | 12:56 PM
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Red Devil, it is devil's speaking right?

I've been in situation where it's not anyone's fault for bumping into each other, like on icy roads around ski slopes for example. Friends bumped into friend's cars. Yes. We were sliding that far! In that case, in any case, I don't wish undue damage to anyone's car. We were lucky that all our SUV's bumpers were relatively the same height so no damage occurred to lights/hoods/fenders.

Wish you save driving and all those around you. I definitely don't want to follow you to the ski slopes.
 
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Scott - I'm not an H2 fan, but the Cayenne would be high on my list. X5 just lacks cargo space in a bad way. Get an X3, which has more cargo space and buy a Humdinger golf cart with the $10k you save.

If you gotta go mid-large SUV, I'm partial to the new Pathfinder and 4Runner. My Sequoia was awesome, but my wife just felt too much like a bus driver. We also like the X3, but are just annoyed with BMW sales & service.

Good luck!
 
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 05:28 AM
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I saw a white Cayenne Turbo yesterday that looked really sharp. I've never liked the pepper's looks but this one came together nicely. No bling rims or anything and I'm sure the S would look just as good if your pocketbook can't stomach the difference.
 
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Originally posted by Aron
Scott - We also like the X3, but are just annoyed with BMW sales & service.

Good luck!
Why not get the RX330 then?
 
Old Jan 3, 2005 | 06:17 AM
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Originally posted by collin996tt
That's why mercedes mount their bumpers on the ML's lower to match normal car levels. It reduces damage/insurance cost to other motorists.

Headlights and fenders can't match a bumper. Now try getting rear ended by another SUV with equal height bumper then we'll see what really happens.
There is a vid of the F150 running into a brick wall taken from one of those safety institutes. Completely collapsed in, that old box-frame isn't nearly as safe as people think.
 
Old Jan 3, 2005 | 07:15 AM
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Scott - I'm not an H2 fan, but the Cayenne would be high on my list. X5 just lacks cargo space in a bad way. Get an X3, which has more cargo space and buy a Humdinger golf cart with the $10k you save.

If you gotta go mid-large SUV, I'm partial to the new Pathfinder and 4Runner. My Sequoia was awesome, but my wife just felt too much like a bus driver. We also like the X3, but are just annoyed with BMW sales & service.

Good luck!
I may check out that X3 for fun, but my wife wasn't really into its looks.

I think the Cayenne is a front runner or even a fully loaded Tourag.

BTW, a $10k golf cart would be amazing. lol. I could tune the #$%@ out of it for that money.
 
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Why not get the RX330 then?

Those are only FWD right?
We really want an AWD SUV.
 
Old Jan 3, 2005 | 07:33 AM
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RX330 AWD starts at $37,825, Lexus invented the cross-over market, they offer anything the competition does.

sale up till the nov of this yr.

RX330 (94,000) > MDX > X3 (32,000) > SRX (26,000) > FX(21,000)

They're all car-unibodies
RX330 heavily modified Camry platform
MDX - Accord
X3 - 3-series
SRX - CTS/STS
FX - G35/M35

Toyota is replacing the 10yr old 3.0/3.3L with a new 3.5L, it's in the new Avalon (also Camry based). Some say it will wind up in the RX next yr.

http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_sh...toyota_avalon/

Edit: I said the RX330 offers anything the competition does, that's not true, the SRX and that Volvo crossover offer a V8 engine option.
 

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didn't know the RX came in AWD... I'll definitely look again at that one. Lexus makes a damn nice car.
 


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