heavychevy,

Sometimes you have some good points, but you and I both know they will get you no where when used in a baiting or condescending manner.

I have to disagree with you when you say Scott has "pushed" certain things. Yes, Scott has an interest in straight line performance and so do a lot of other people judging from the replies to his 1/4 mile/ 60-130 thread. There is nothing wrong with this.

The question should be how does 6speed become a place for both types to enjoy?

Any good suggestions?

 

Before this gets ugly, I would just like to say that the decisions made on this forum by it's leaders is theirs. I don't agree with all of them, but they are their decisions. While I am sadened by the loss of input from these guys that left and their contributions, I will continue to use this forum for all of my 996tt questions. I have no intention of contributing any further to this thread unless it is for helpful input to the moderators. I feel as though emotional and argumentative posts are not going to get this forum where it needs to be in the interests of the enthusiasts. Just my .02.

 

Dr_jitsu,

I believe we both agree the 996tt/GT2 isn't an ideal 1/4 mile platform.

The "roll ons" definitely show promise and possible superiority. The question remains where can these type of contests safely take place on a consistent basis? The answer is obvious ........ Mexico. and here lies the problem.

 

My suggestion is to not be so concerned with vendors getting their feelings hurt. The folowing suggestions are not accusations towards this forum in particular. When somebody has bad experiences with products, the forum is where they should be discussed. This is not for vendor bashing. This is so if the issue is common, the other's who have experienced it can guide them on what to do. Then if the vendor isn't helping them out, you can let others know what they are getting into before they purchase from them. When a vendor/sponsor makes a product that is crap, that product should be reported here. Even if they are a sponsor. The 996TT scene is too small to have somebopdy selling crap parts that don't last or don't work. It may hurt sponsor cash flow towards the forum, but it helps the enthusiast in the long run. Plus, you shouldn't want a sponsor that makes crap representing a forum in the first place.

My other suggestion is to do with deleted posts. If somebody is being a dick, let them. It let's other people know what type of person they are dealing with. When they cross the line, threaten to ban them. If it gets worse, ban them. I see posts get deleted for silly reasons IMHO. I have not had any bad experiences with the mods, but I read alot of discontent towards them. I don't post as much as I read here, but I have been reading here for several years. In this time I have seen this forum go from very helpful to much less helpful. The change appears to be proportional to the number of posts against the moderators. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out where the failures on this forum are happening. Regardless of if the mods did anything wrong or not, the issues need to be ironed out and members get on the same page for this forum to thrive.

 

I know how to get Tom back on this forum...

Hey Tom is it true you don't race in a Porsche anymore?

 

I'm waiting for a vendor post dropped in here showcasing some hi-flo carbon airbox or 22 inch "track wheels" to really bring the point home.

please guys - hook it up...keep it real

 

This section was the most popular long before 60-130 threads took over. But you can keep patting yourself on the back.

Speaking of inconsequential Im sure it takes a lot more skill than driving from a roll in a straight line. Way to go, you proved you can drive in a straight line without even the difficulty of launching.

Some nerve. You shift once maybe twice, and never hit the brake, launch or turn a wheel and that's and accomplishment? Bahahaha. Thats the Paris Hilton of motorsports.

 

I am new here, so I don't know what this place USED to be like. However, I had a recent post that was erased IMMEDIATELY after I posted it, and it left a very bad taste in my mouth.

I commented in a Vivid thread about their new turbo and asked why they chose to use Agency Power parts on their build, since that company produces parts of questionable quality in the Subaru community, where I come from. I did not realize the two companies are one and the same.

Nonetheless the comment was immediately erased and I received a reprimand from the moderators.

So what I'm reading in this thread I can identify with. If this board has a history of this type of behavior from its moderators and is indeed run by the vendors (which seems apparent) then I will "switch channels" and use other forums.

Censorship sucks.

 

WoW, And Well WOW...

This category went down hill over the last 12 months and people who have been here a while know it... As long as Mark and Chuck want to over-moderate it, people will leave... It's that simple... Chad, I still have your emails to me... We can make them public if you'd like... You are the reason I was banned...You contacted me, not the other way around...

Anyone who wants the continued support we contributed here, can get it on RENNTRACK! It's where the 996TT manuals can be downloaded and it's where those who know more than a little about these cars are hanging these days... It's where we aren't sensored or "edited"...

The internet was designed to share info... Anything else is "fleecing of the sheep"...

 

Mike,

Not only did we e-mail but we spoke on the phone for sometime. I considered you to be an asset and a source of good information. I am sorry my trying to help resulted in your ban.

 

Mike

 

Chad, I said it before and will again... The VENDORS who complain are missing the boat. The members buy the parts that make them money. Step on enough members and guess what? They won't BUY your parts... Facts are facts... This category has taken a BIG hit... And the VENDORS and ADMINS have themselves to blame...


There are other places to go to "contribute" and "SHARE" information without the heavy hand of moderators and admins who shouldn't have the "privilage".

Mike

 

I was actually referring to you patting me on the back for being solely responsible for turning this into the "Drag Race, 60-130, standing mile of the world section".

Since I'm actually quite proud of the amount of member involvement in that specific thread, I say thank you again!

I don't think it takes much skill at all to run a 60-130. Heck, does anyone?

Getting a good launch at a dragstrip in a Porsche, however, is another story.

Talk about nerve. You actually believe what you do with your cars is an accomplishment...LOL.

Let me make it easy for you to understand; nothing you do in your cars is of any significance or importance to anyone but yourself. This fact applies to me as well. The difference is, I was already aware of this....while you're apparently just now learning it.

 

That's why you're proud, Scott? Congrats on helping run it into the ground... When other members ask where those who contribute from a different angle have gone, you have yourself to indeed pat on the back. Maybe that GR-R in your garage will serve them well.

Well Done.

Mikelly

 

Road racing requires vast skill, and requires balancing a high strung nervous car on edge for prolonged periods of time while dealing with high levels of adrenaline. It is a sport steeped in tradition and watched and respected the world over across all classes and races. That is significant.

Roll on racing requires a fat wallet and an empty stretch of highway... nothing more.

I think that's what the point is.