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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 01:57 PM
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Doesnt Markski get 700 with his K24/20 set up???
 
Old Apr 19, 2011 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by johnspeed
Doesnt Markski get 700 with his K24/20 set up???
good point...I thought he did also...
 
Old Apr 19, 2011 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by johnspeed
Doesnt Markski get 700 with his K24/20 set up???
On PUMP gas?
 
Old Apr 19, 2011 | 02:44 PM
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Markskis kit does 700+ on ms109
switzers numbers well they are great but you never know the actual boost, always a secret.
I currently have the alpha 3076's and they can probably do 600 on pump but not sure I'd push them and the stock motor that far. 20k is a small budget in this world, I learned that real quick. E85 and we have a different ball game but still stock motor. I believe chris from usp did 720+ on e85 and 24/18g's with supporting mods and some good boost
 
Old Apr 19, 2011 | 02:54 PM
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For starters, you probably won't beat Switzer to achieve your goals as far as possible (700 on pump/stock motor is a bit unrealistic, but 630-640 is not)..

I spent about 40K in mods for a car that makes low 600's on pump and close to 800 on C16 (although I have never dynoed her w/ my last round of mods).

I was told by my former mechanic that going w/ one of the new TIAL turbos (I have GT3076/63's) would give me a bit more power but then I would be at the limit for a stock block.

I bet if I came to Switzer w/ a good low mileage metger motor that he could do what I have done for under 35k.
 
Old Apr 19, 2011 | 02:58 PM
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40k wow, I guess I don't feel so bad After I get suspension done and take out the front diff I'll dyno my car on pump gas at 1.1Bar and see where it is. As of right now I am door to door with my brothers c6 which is blown 575rwhp and I'm pretty much full weight.
 
Old Apr 19, 2011 | 03:11 PM
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If you consider E85 to be pump gas, then it should be doable with mods that that Prodigymb listed (with a larger fuel system). I would skip the uber-expensive intercoolers others have suggested when a certain $900 set has shown cooler outlet temps at 700hp (see GT-TT in the 997tt forum). You do not need a $3500 blow through setup when a $800 set of inlet pipes will do fine (see Chris Green). Same with keeping stock y-pipe (again, see Chris Chreen). Spend the money you saved on con-rods
 
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Originally Posted by earl3
If you consider E85 to be pump gas, then it should be doable with mods that that Prodigymb listed (with a larger fuel system). I would skip the uber-expensive intercoolers others have suggested when a certain $900 set has shown cooler outlet temps at 700hp (see GT-TT in the 997tt forum). You do not need a $3500 blow through setup when a $800 set of inlet pipes will do fine (see Chris Green). Same with keeping stock y-pipe (again, see Chris Chreen). Spend the money you saved on con-rods
couldn't find any posts regarding the GT-TT and a $900 IC set? got a linky? I have read about the speed tech turbo inlet pipes though, that looks like a nice setup Chris has available...good mod to do if the engine is dropped...
 
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Originally Posted by earl3
If you consider E85 to be pump gas, then it should be doable with mods that that Prodigymb listed (with a larger fuel system). I would skip the uber-expensive intercoolers others have suggested when a certain $900 set has shown cooler outlet temps at 700hp (see GT-TT in the 997tt forum). You do not need a $3500 blow through setup when a $800 set of inlet pipes will do fine (see Chris Green). Same with keeping stock y-pipe (again, see Chris Chreen). Spend the money you saved on con-rods
Hey buddy hows the M3 going?

The blow through system, while not raising peak hp a ton, will give you much, much faster spool up.
 
Old Apr 19, 2011 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by TiALSport
3076's will do 870+whp without breaking much of a sweat

those turbos are 550HP+ each
so where's 3071's rated at?
 
Old Apr 19, 2011 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TiALSport
3076's will do 870+whp without breaking much of a sweat

those turbos are 550HP+ each
at what boost level though?

i follow you if were talking about a built bottom end but not stock bottom end on pump gas...

a car was tuned (by Protomotive) end of last year with all supporting mods, hard pipes(Stock MAF), 4.5" intercoolers, large TB, IPD race plenum, BBI coils, tial 3076R's, 3" BBI exhaust, Second fuel pump and larger injectors, im sure im forgetting one or two things, but the car at 1.9bar did not break 700awhp on c16 fuel. so saying it can do it without breaking a sweat on these cars i dont agree.

if you could use the entire amount of boost pressure the Turbo is capable of then i agree, but that would take a built bottom end and most likely more then pump fuel.
 

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Audikp's car made 724 to the wheels on a Mustang (EPL) on race gas with A3071 and injectors+5 bar...everything else stock aside from exhaust.....

link: https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...s-results.html
 
Old Apr 19, 2011 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by emadelta86
Audikp's car made 724 to the wheels on a Mustang (EPL) on race gas with A3071 and injectors+5 bar...everything else stock aside from exhaust.....

link: https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...s-results.html
exactly race gas and 1.55bar both are more then what an average pump gas tune would entail
 
Old Apr 19, 2011 | 05:43 PM
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On my GT2 I was running a Proto blow-through intake, Proto headers, TPC/Proto intercoolers, piggy back fuel pump, 3.8 BAR FPR, 60lb injectors, Tial 44mm Wastegates, Switzer exhaust, hybrid turbos (the same one that Markski uses)....and made 712 rwhp on 93 octane at 1.5'ish BAR.

It can be done, but it ain't cheap, nor is it easy. Closer to $30k.
 
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Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
On my GT2 I was running a Proto blow-through intake, Proto headers, TPC/Proto intercoolers, piggy back fuel pump, 3.8 BAR FPR, 60lb injectors, Tial 44mm Wastegates, Switzer exhaust, hybrid turbos (the same one that Markski uses)....and made 712 rwhp on 93 octane at 1.5'ish BAR.

It can be done, but it ain't cheap, nor is it easy. Closer to $30k.
yea i thought about your GT2 scott but, the average Joe is not going to get a 1.55 bar pump gas tune as its a bit more riskaye then the average pump gas tune.
 


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