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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 09:41 PM
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As soon as my suspension gets done and the front diff goes bye bye I will dyno my car but 600 on pump gas will be hard unless you do some serious serious tuning and always watch all your vitals. I think at 1.3 Bar on pump I could make 600, will it be safe I dont know. If I had to guess I'm around 540awhp now so figure just a rwd conversion would roughly add 20whp so thats 560 then .2 bar more of boost and should be tipping 600. In all honesty i doubt I'd feel comfortable running 1.3 on pump, my pockets are not that deep. I don;t like guessing and bench racing so when I have numbers I'll post them up.
 
Old Apr 19, 2011 | 11:09 PM
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I thought he was talking about 700 crank HP.......Whole different story with wheel HP
 
Old Apr 20, 2011 | 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by AI99
What would be the best package for a standard (996) 911 Turbo to upgrade to 700whp on pump gas, with a maxiumum budget of $20k?

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around $25k, you can do it with Protomotive 3076 package.
 
Old Apr 20, 2011 | 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by johnspeed
I thought he was talking about 700 crank HP.......Whole different story with wheel HP
So did I. Over here in the UK, nearly all of our dynos convert the readings to crank. Its not very often you actually see whats at the wheels.
As you say totally different ball game. I'm looking at K16 Billets, injectors, with 100 cel Miltek and a Tod K tune. That wont be far off 670 crank BHP or more like 530 at the rear wheel HP.

In fact we never talk about wheel BHP its always with out exception crank BHP we discuss and "boast " about whether in the pub or at the local Porsche OPC or even on the Internet forums.
So when the OP mentioned 700 BHP and from over here in the uk I immediately though he meant at the Crank. After all thats the way all manufacturers advertise the HP of their cars, without exception.
Perhaps he would come back on and confirm as 700 at the rear wheel HP is a very big crank BHP and ££££££
 

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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 06:47 AM
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will need to think about motor building @ 700whp, your be bending things left and right if not tuned properly (the most important part) and not running an aquamist or similar kit to lower temps.
 
Old Apr 20, 2011 | 06:51 AM
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The OP wants 700whp on Pump gas for $20k or less. Not possible.
 
Old Apr 20, 2011 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by LUISGT3
The OP wants 700whp on Pump gas for $20k or less. Not possible.
I agree, especially since the OP appears to be in the UK where things are more expensive. 700 whp on pump would probably be a stretch for 20,000 pounds...
 

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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 07:37 AM
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by NineElevenLover
That kit is a surprising value! But, I believe that the numbers quoted are crank numbers on race gas. I drew this conclusion by reading the info on the kit above, BL1000, which says it gets 750 hp on pump and 1000+ on race gas...
http://www.boostlogic.com/?page_id=111
 
Old Apr 20, 2011 | 08:32 AM
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Sorry guys, not tryna thread jack or anything but what sort of figures do you think i'll come out with on the following set up...

5bar FPR
AMS Billet K16s
911tuning 3inch X system
UPS 2.5inch turbo intake pipes
Iridium plugs
Tune

Also, with the tune, whats the max boost i can run on SHell Vpower 99 octane fuel. I am in the UK so our pump fuel is 95, 97, 99 octane. i religiously use 99. THaNKS!!
 
Old Apr 20, 2011 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Yazz911TT
Sorry guys, not tryna thread jack or anything but what sort of figures do you think i'll come out with on the following set up...

5bar FPR
AMS Billet K16s
911tuning 3inch X system
UPS 2.5inch turbo intake pipes
Iridium plugs
Tune

Also, with the tune, whats the max boost i can run on SHell Vpower 99 octane fuel. I am in the UK so our pump fuel is 95, 97, 99 octane. i religiously use 99. THaNKS!!

Oi ***** blud u wont get no HP gain with them ***** mods
 
Old Apr 20, 2011 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by OS Inspector
at what boost level though?

i follow you if were talking about a built bottom end but not stock bottom end on pump gas...

a car was tuned (by Protomotive) end of last year with all supporting mods, hard pipes(Stock MAF), 4.5" intercoolers, large TB, IPD race plenum, BBI coils, tial 3076R's, 3" BBI exhaust, Second fuel pump and larger injectors, im sure im forgetting one or two things, but the car at 1.9bar did not break 700awhp on c16 fuel. so saying it can do it without breaking a sweat on these cars i dont agree.

if you could use the entire amount of boost pressure the Turbo is capable of then i agree, but that would take a built bottom end and most likely more then pump fuel.
i can tell you that the car is seriously f'ed up if it did not break 700 awhp at 1.9 bar on c16 .
 
Old Apr 20, 2011 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by besiktas
around $25k, you can do it with Protomotive 3076 package.
Um... No you cant , 700 WHP ON PUMP , no you cant.
 
Old Apr 20, 2011 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by unvmy996
i can tell you that the car is seriously f'ed up if it did not break 700 awhp at 1.9 bar on c16 .
since then the car has been fitted with a Blow through as the Hard pipes choked it big time. (50hp gain by removing the air filter) hasnt been redyno'd yet

all im saying is if it was so easy you would see more people doing it. Can it be Done yes, but its not the Norm on these cars to make 700whp on pump gas let alone can you just bolt on some turbos, set boost, generic flash and have it.
 
Old Apr 20, 2011 | 12:56 PM
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i agree
 


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