Someone will knock them off in China just a matter of time and sell them for half the price just like the Intercoolers, headers , exhausts. Etc. there are plenty of new comers to the AM parts business. I honestly would rather support someone that actually makes it inhouse then a business who orders from alibaba.com. It's a shame because there was a time when we all appreciated innovative and cutting edge products. In the end, go fast parts are not duplicated but rather created. But the Porsche go fast market has shifted from quality to price as the driving factor.
U can sell a lot of cheap $1200 Intercoolers for example with creative marketing and aggressive online campaigns by giving a set to a 6speed member and designating him as the campaign manager lol. With that said, someone is making $1000 on those coolers and is praised because he's cheap yet someone who makes it and uses top quality materials is the bad guy- Porsche tax collector.
To each his own. Thus, I await when someone will Copy this too and sell it for $500
No hate just speaking my mind.
Markski

 

These are an exception I think. They can be mass produced from plastic on a 3d printer and it's made up of plastic + k&N filters. They're not worth $1,200. The P car market is ridiculous and it's because it's a P car and that's all. I understand your sentiments, but c'mon, $1,200 for intakes?

You forget that the A/M pricing is dictated by the car value as well. A new 911 turbo @ $150,000 means an owner can/will be more comfortable dropping $5k on a muffler. Times change as the people who own these cars now are not the same as the ones buying new.

 

It is easy to forget that this will be a low volume item. That means that he would need to recoup r&d through fewer parts sold. Hence each part must carry a higher % of R&D. There is more than manufacturing on these pieces. There is the idea, testing, multiple times of fabrication and then warranty/breakage.

Also, Todd posted this response on Instagram about the material to construct and some details:
nylon 20%carbon fibre work best for us. They're about 560 grams a piece! 21 hour print/each for layer bonding. And we are epoxy coating them post print for sealing and strength.

 

I understand that it's low volume. Fender intakes is not rocket science.

 

Then build them and sell them for less. Must be nice to be a genius

 

No need to be wise. . This is a "forum" for discussion. I get low volume, R&D, but the point is that yes, it's not science to make intakes. If you think I'm a genius cause I can make them, then looks like you're a customer for his, so no one loses.


I have a day job or believe me, I would have monetized this hobby long ago. I just fear that if one day I did, I would lose the enjoyment of putting cars together for fun.

 

I have to agree with both Marksi and Gungriffin on their above posts. This is a low volume item and the producers of these parts must make a profit to stay in business. For comparison, look at any exhaust manufacturer on this forum and take note of what exhausts for these cars cost. Again, they are low volume items and like Marksi, I too would rather support the USA pioneers of these products than the Chinese copy cats...It's a Porsche, not a Mustang, Camaro or Corvette.... Nothing against these cars as I have owned them in the past as well but the used value of my 14 year old 996 Turbo is still higher than most models of these cars cost new 14+ years later. If you want to modify or even just maintain one of these cars it's not cheap. Take a look at what replacement parts from Porsche still cost for these cars. Again, they are very expensive. You won't find a $250 K&N cold air kit for a 996 TT. Why? Cause there is not enough volume and they won't make a profit.

 

You say things like this pretty often, why not just be specific and get it over with?

$1200 for these is steep IMO. Yes, he's making a quality piece and it's taking him ages per piece but printing them one at a time is what's killing him. I'd suggest having something made from these as a pattern but they're low volume enough that tooling costs will kill him. There's got to be a way to produce them cheaper and still retain profit enough to be worthwhile. My setup is fabricated aluminum and wasn't that expensive, I also know that clearancing for the tires was a PITA. It's a known power producer for MAFless cars, wish there was an easier cheaper way to produce a quality part...

 

Interesting discussions here.

As these snorkel are effectively stealing air from the intercoolers are intake temps raised?

Can anyone link me to a thread proving this.

Si

 

Of course price is becoming a driving factor when high mileage examples can be had in the mid 30's, and if you cant change with the times then you are just making a product for which no market exists. Look, I know that you have been in this market for a long time and that you hold yourself to a certain standard of quality. Trust me I see all you posts on boards and FB, you market yourself well and the quality of your products looks amazing. I can see how it would be easy to look down on people making and selling parts down market from you, yes, its inferior product but obviously there is a market for it.


I may not be the average enthusiast, I do all my own work whenever possible. There a places I am happy to pay up and places I am not, I would never buy knock off intercoolers or exhaust, but $1200 for fender intakes? As a do it yourselfer I would rather make something myself then pay that for 2 filters, 2 90degree silicone hoses and some 3d printed plastic. its just not worth it for me personally.

 

The really great part of this is that there are now options for people at more price points. The issue is when the options become available because vendors simply copy the products that others produce. In the near term, that seems good because it it possible to get these products at a lower price. The issue is that in the long term many of the vendors simply stop producing products for the platform. I can certainly understand how that is frustrating for the pioneering developers. Take it as you will.

 

No one wants to do window intakes?

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