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Dog bones or toe-link kit??

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Old Jul 26, 2011 | 05:06 PM
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Dog bones or toe-link kit??

Car is lowerred about an inch front and rear....

Do we need aftermartket dog bones or toe-links? Or both?
 
Old Jul 26, 2011 | 05:35 PM
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They are great mods, I'd suggest it if lowered.
 
Old Jul 26, 2011 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by gmoney
They are great mods, I'd suggest it if lowered.

Can I get away with one or the other? Or do I need both?
 
Old Jul 26, 2011 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ek9max
Can I get away with one or the other? Or do I need both?
You need the dog bones to adjust camber, and the toe link to adjust toe. So, I recommend both. If you do get the toe link, also get the locking pins to eliminate the eccentric toe adjuster.

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How are you driving the car?


If you drive only on the street, a good alignment guy can use the eccentrics to get your toe good. Pending how low the car is and how hard you drive it if you drive on track the toe could become an issue, but you have to go pretty extreme with the setup.


Dogbones should be the number one priority if you are sure you MUST upgrade them. Toe links are secondary, but you should not need both unless you are REALLY low.
 
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i dont think 1 inch lowering absolutely requires these parts.
 
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Ok. Well hopefully the alignment guy can get them good enough. I won't be racing the car. Just on the street really
 
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Originally Posted by ek9max
Ok. Well hopefully the alignment guy can get them good enough. I won't be racing the car. Just on the street really

Chances are you'll need at least dog bones or adjustable toe links. Camber and toe move inversely with each other on the back of a 996 so sometimes you'll can get away with just adjustable toe links. Dog bones are a better solution but more expensive. Changes from stock wheel/tire width/offset also will change the alignment.
 

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Do either make the suspension noisy?
 
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Dog Bones can, especially if they are the cheap kind where the joints go bad. Toe links shouldn't make much if any noise.
 
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Any component with an exposed ball bearing (Which is a heimjoint) should be kept clean and inspected regularly. Good and bad heim joints fail. Keep that in mind when buying anything that has heimjoints. The better the joint, the longer it may last, but it truly does require regular inspections/cleaning.

My recommendation is just buying the GT2/3 split control arms. Sure, they're a little more expensive, but don't require the maintenance and are a much better solution, along with good quality toe links/bumpsteer kit.

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My car is lowered one inch on techart springs and didn't need any adjustable parts to get the alignment I wanted although I did buy a set of adjustable toe links ahead of time based on the general consensus of the board. That said, I am not running a factory alignment. My car is a street car but I like to drive it aggressively so I am running a tad more camber in both front and rear.
 
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The arms are on my car and I was able to get a very mild alignment of -1.2 camber on the rear. I'm not sure, but suspect that the arms are shorter than stock arms starting out. Hope that answers your question... I'm actually running -1.2 in the rear and -1.4 up front. We are primarily driving the car on the street these days, so I wanted more conservative tire wear.

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Originally Posted by Addington
I was under the impression that the gt2/3 arms only ADDED camber, not reduced it? Isn't the issue with lowered cars not being able to adjust the camber low enough?
 
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do both, do as much as needed the first time so that you dont have to go back in again and again.
 
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Imbjust trying to avoid suspension noises.....
 


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