Hehe no I meant that in a good sense Convince Oak and you know it's a good product:P

 

Also known as a "***** nilly" mod freak.

No, really if the claims are true this could be one performance mod with the most gain with the least $.

Do I hear a loud sucking sound? SNAP! Let's do it.

 

I think the factory intake is certainly restrictive for such a highly
amped motor, but may not be for a stocker, or at least to a
much lower degree.

 

Joe, you're probably right, but just to clarify, that was not my quote. I took that from the original post about dyno results with the Evo intake. I think Porsche PHD made this statement. In any case, if those dynoes are accurate, it's tough to argue with results.

 

**cough** retrocactive price reductions for those who already purchased an intake **cough**

Craig

Ps: Im only kidding. Personally, I think the intakes are a bargain as currently priced!

 

The dynos we displayed were on a Mustang on a STOCK car. 15HP and 15 TQ. Not 40. That was a misc post that someone sent up earlier and was taken to be a stock car. The only thing that adds 40HP to a stock car is a chip.
If any wants the dyno graphs or the dyno traces or the hard numbers exported let me know. I will mail or fax them. Better yet any six speeders in KC. We can run the tesast again. Com 'on Oak, hope on a plane..Wewill have some beers!

Here is the dyno of the stock car.

 

OT:

Stephen, I have been hearing a lot of crap that Mustang dyno's are notorious for being overly optimistic in hp/torque measurements when compared to dynopak, dyno jet ect. Any truth to this keeping in mind that in the real world, a dyno is there to set a baseline and then used to measure the tuning improvements vs establishing a true standard hp reading on an engine dyno......just curious. Thanks

 

No actually it is opposite. My dyno consistently reads much lower than most. A DynoJet always reads higher because it is just a big roller. There is no real inertia. The Mustang uses not only Eddie Current but a 1K Lb flywheel. The other thing is the dyno runs parasitic that increase as the dyno climbs. Mustang, DynoPack and Dyno Dynamics are some of the lowest readings of all dynos. On a regular basis I call Todd and check my base lines to their DynoJet. We always come up with less power and TQ. The way the software and the parasitic are set up the dyno is a more consistent number and more realistic. I did a lot of research before buying one. There is no comparison. The only other dyno I would have bought would have been a Dyno Dynamics. Rolling in at almost 158K optioned I had to pass.

CA apparently is Mustangs biggest clients and I have to expect that is for a reason. No doubt though it is very conservative in the numbers. Your questions is the first I have ever heard of. Normally that question is posed to DynoJet. We do a lot of steady state tuning. It is a good machine.

 

Two questions for clarification. Was the OEM filter which was used as a comparison brand new (clean) or was it partially dirty. Second, a 656.9 rwhp motor was using an OEM filter and not an aftermarket filter which would provide an additional 4-6 hp?

I am not taking a thing away from the EVO product. It sounds like a great product. I just want to be clear on the constants being employed in the testing.

 

Thanks Stephen. My baseline and post exhaust upgrade dyno was done on AWE's mustang. Stock dyno was 348, last month car with 3000 additional miles, EP and BMC yielded 372 at the wheels. I really wasn't expecting that much iof an ncrease...

 

Yes it was new on our test. Just for good graces. I wanted no variables left undone.

Have no idea if you were using a simple K&N. The orginal test I did on that was a stock car about 2 years ago. Heck, I think that was only like 3HP.

The airbox is a different story.

 

I heard the EP really does a number on your car..No rumor I guess

 

Sounds good Stephen. I intend to try one in July after KA has been tuned. We will do back to back dyno runs. I'll let you know the delta when we substitute the air box.

 

I have a Europipe I love too. What was the mileage of
the first run? If it was very low, then a motor might get looser
and more broken in, and maybe more powerful with 3000
more miles. Still, I'd like to believe the EP delivers as much
as possible...
Joe