996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

AWD doesn't really apply from a stop it seems

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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 03:08 PM
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Awd.
 
Old Dec 23, 2011 | 03:10 PM
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are there axles in the front ? you should be able to see/get a pic fairly easy
 
Old Dec 23, 2011 | 03:13 PM
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Aha. If you lift both front wheels off the ground and spin one, they both spin. Pretty good evidence eh?

So yeah, these things just aren't good at getting out of ice holes with summer tires. HA
 
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now youve got me nervous. i hope our cars really are good in the snow...
 
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Originally Posted by TiALSport
i watched them too, the fronts kicked in after a while...later than i expected

but i think it's what....up to 30% front transfer max?
40 if I remember right. 95/5 to 60/40.
 
Old Dec 23, 2011 | 03:40 PM
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When I got my car, it was a low mileage car that was all stock. I got stuck in 4in of snow in my flat driveway...I was so dissapointed about buying an AWD car, that wasn't really AWD? I would NEVER drive my car in the snow RWD. And it wasn't much better AWD. It ain't no Quattro...
 
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Thats the whole point of the turbo. It is not true 4 wheel drive. It is suppose to behave like a rear wheel drive car for most of the time which it does. Only in extreme circumstances it transfers power to front wheels to help a bit with traction.
 
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Originally Posted by Terminator
Thats the whole point of the turbo. It is not true 4 wheel drive. It is suppose to behave like a rear wheel drive car for most of the time which it does. Only in extreme circumstances it transfers power to front wheels to help a bit with traction.
...traction on nonslippery surfaces...
 
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Originally Posted by Terminator
Thats the whole point of the turbo. It is not true 4 wheel drive. It is suppose to behave like a rear wheel drive car for most of the time which it does. Only in extreme circumstances it transfers power to front wheels to help a bit with traction.
This is definitely true. It's not like a truck or subie by any means, but I am happy to report:

Gentlemen: I have conquered the ice hole.

I went back to the same place and played around and now it's fine. It's not quattro good, but it seems like if you can start getting the rears going forward a little bit, the front kicks in and you can drag yourself out of things.

So hey, better than nothing! Thanks for all the help everyone. Now I'm going to go find some fun slippery roads.
 
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The 996tt always has power going to the front. It can increase that power working like any other awd system with open diffs. The only difference is that it is limted in the amount of power it can transfer forward. The minimum is 5% and the max is either 30 or 40% (getting old and can't remember. To put it in perspective, I live in an area that received 600-800 inches of snow last year. I drove my car throughout the winter as a daily driver and never got stuck. It is a mountain area so lots of steep slopes. My car performed perfectly with no surprises. Yes it was not as good as my old Subaru STI, but it was definitely comparable to other AWD cars out there if not better due to the low center of gravity and the weight out back.
 
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I looked into this a while ago and what I found out is the car starts with about 5% torque going to the front drive. As speed increases more torque is delivered to the front with a maximum of 30% at 155 MPH. If both rear wheels spin and lose grip power is transmitted to the front.

I have driven my car pretty aggressively in the canyons and have never felt the front drive aid in pulling me through a turn. I guess it's quite subtle as I've also had the front push in a turn where I was certain the front drive would go to work and aid in cornering. Odd, I know but I feel I could push my C2 Cab faster in turns than my AWD Turbo.
 
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Originally Posted by nick49
I looked into this a while ago and what I found out is the car starts with about 5% torque going to the front drive. As speed increases more torque is delivered to the front with a maximum of 30% at 155 MPH. If both rear wheels spin and lose grip power is transmitted to the front.

I have driven my car pretty aggressively in the canyons and have never felt the front drive aid in pulling me through a turn. I guess it's quite subtle as I've also had the front push in a turn where I was certain the front drive would go to work and aid in cornering. Odd, I know but I feel I could push my C2 Cab faster in turns than my AWD Turbo.
The push in turns is actually caused by AWD. AWD assists only with turn exit, not turn in.
 
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The first time I had my TT in the snow, I was trying to spin the rear wheels and was unable to do so. I could not get this thing stuck no matter how hard I tried. I do have snow tires though.
 
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I have a dumb question, but does spinning your tires like the first video add unnecessary miles to your car?


I would think over the course of several winters that one would rack up some phamom miles.

A few miles here and there would add up.
 


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