Looking at 2013 gtr claimed stats yesterday and it got me thinking, the claims are 542 bhp, 1740kg, 0-60 in 2.8 seconds and top speed 199 mph.

If you have a 996 turbo with around 600whp what 0-60 would be possible? Would you pull off in 2nd gear? Just curious

 

Our cars are not built for 0-60; it is difficult to get sub 3 second.

 

they got the traction, the flappy paddles , the high tech stuff going so yeah.. gtr is a monster even though its a heavy pig

 

0-60 in our car is highly subjective. "Driver mod" would be the most important mod on the 996tt in getting a very fast 0-60. At your HP I imagine it is possible to do sub 3 second 0-60 if you are a great driver slip the clutch just right and have sticky tires and no wheel hop.

All that new techy stuff on the GTR makes it able to do a sub 3 second 0-60 reliably every time. The '12 997ttS does it even faster than the GTR according to Road & Track Magazine.

(Actually I just remembered GTR was the fastest 0-60 (by like 0.1 sec) in that road and track issue but the Porshe pulled away shortly after and the rest of the way up.)

 

Is it possible to install the 997 GT2 launch control in our cars??

 

I have been having this discussion with my other car enthusiast friends. Manufacturers and tuners have tweeked to get tons of power out of light smaller displacements engines to beat 0-60 figures and right now we are seeing a change in sports cars. No longer will we see car with huge amounts of horsepower alone beating these numbers. It is now getting beat by the manufacturer with the fastest most technologically advanced transmissions. If the GTR had a manual transmission it wouldn't be making the waves it has. The new turbo s is less powerful than many member's cars here and they can't touch the turbo s in the 0-60 numbers. It is all in the gearing and shifting. Manual transmissions are now the limiting factor, not the driver or the power of the engine.

 

I have an honest 650 bhp and debatable more depending on who interprets the figures.
0-60 2.9 sec
0-100 6.5sec
60-130 7 sec

All on a 1.5 deg incline and poor concrete surface.
All GPS verified.

K1639 Turbos, 60lb injectors, soft intake piping, 3 1/2" IC's, running 1.5 bar 99 ron fuel. Miltek 100 cell cats and M/Sport exhausts.
(MKB Tip box and TCU)

dont know where that fits into your data but there you have it.
Results should be published in 911UK magazine some time shortly.

 

My Tip pulled off a 2.7s 0-60 with K16/16's.

 

And you had all the supporting stuff too. That's why you WERE the king of drag. The best I had even done was 3.1... the torque convertor really made the diff.

 

Who did the mapping on your car?

 

both from Ken ( nine Excellence over here) and Mark.

The thing is we are running pump fuel 94 IIRC US grade. And the car ran 197 mph ( gps) lap after lap before we did and were allowed to try for the 200.77 run.
Its easy for just about any tuner to get huge power for small time scales but to be able to keep your foot mashed to the floor on pump fuel and hit 0-100 consistently in 6.5 seconds and continue to 197-200 lap after lap on pump fuel requires some tidy mods.

No matter what the figures cars with K16 billets can do, we know they dont flow as much air as the new K1639's. The billets have now been shadowed by a further development. Fortunately we have the billets as supplied by Mark over here and we can categorically confirm that a car with K1639 turbos produces more power than K16 billets.

Let me spell it out to all those with K1616g and billets, I'm sorry to say there old hat , we have moved on and have the consistent figures to back it up.
I'm sure a 16g or billet with a bespoke race tune and race gas might produce similar figures to our 39's but then , if we used a bespoke race tune and race gas we would also have the same advantage applied across the board.
The aim of myself was to get as much power form my K16 car as possible, having spent 30 years with Turbos cars I know the best people to test and flow turbines and build bespoke hybrids. Not being happy enough with the figures billets could produce I put Ken onto my Turbo builder and they came up with the K1639. Originally just for my car and if they were successfully then a full Power mod would be produced. They were so successful Ken has fully developed a package arround the K1639's and now sells the package over here and to anyone else who wants it. He has spent a lot of money developing it and were all glad its so good.

 

I feel like the availability of extreme horse power, high tech tires, and F-1 based sequential transmissions has made the old 0-60 run obsolete. Back in the old days (1980s and before) cars could easily be separated based on this interval. Passenger cars were over 10s, inexpensive sports cars/ muscle cars were 6-9 sec, serious drag racers/ exotics were under 6s. Actually not many exotics were even much under 6 LOL!

Zoom forward to now. Passenger cars can easily be had that get to 60 in 5-6 seconds. Hell, my 6K lb sequoia can do it in 6.1s! Inexpensive sports cars like Mustang/Camaro variants are in the 4-5s range. Now expensive sports cars and exotics are crammed into 2-3s range. The problem with that is driver skills, atmospheric conditions, and a host of other factors can push performance far beyond this tiny range.
Thus, now we look to higher speeds like 60-130 to further accentuate the differences between these new cars and minimize driver differences so we can resolve the cars in a hierarchy...

 

I agree, so on that note, what is the 60-130 time of the new gtr?

 

About 9.x sec depending on who read.

 

So my car when finished will spank one. What about superbikes? Does anyone know any real 60-130 times on the big ones?