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Old Jun 24, 2012 | 10:03 AM
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Can I Remove The Intake Manifolds With The Engine In The Car?

I'm part way through fixing the fault with my Knock Sensor wiring

I need to either remove the engine or remove the intake manifold to gain access to it

Is it possible to remove the intake manifold with the engine in the car?
And if so, is there a write up anywhere?

I've had a read through the workshop manual, but it says the engine has to come out?

What's the deal?
 
Old Jun 24, 2012 | 11:53 AM
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Well, you might be able, if all the planets are properly aligned and you have extra joints in your arms, but actually dropping the engine is much easier.

A second thought...no, you're not able to do that. There's some things you just can't reach.
 
Old Jun 24, 2012 | 12:02 PM
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If its bank 2 remove you A/C compressor and you will see the knock sensor, bank 1 you may need to remove the TB too to get down to it. I would unbolt the sensor and leave the clip hooked up, the harness is closer to the front of the motor (rear of the car) and will help you not lose the sensor and reinstall the new one. I think it will not be all that hard. there really is not much clutter around the knock sensors.

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Ps. you dont have to unhook the freon lines just pull the unit up and out.
 
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Could you have a look at this....

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ensor-1-a.html

I've got the y-pipe, alternator, and f-hose off

I can see the Knock sensor, but can't get to it
There's no wires on the sensor at all, so I need to be careful not to lose it during removal

Let me know what you think
 
Old Jun 24, 2012 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by pete95zhn
Well, you might be able, if all the planets are properly aligned and you have extra joints in your arms, but actually dropping the engine is much easier.

A second thought...no, you're not able to do that. There's some things you just can't reach.
Thanks Pete

It looks unlikely to me that it can be done, but I know stranger things have happened

Personally I think it's an engine out job
Hope Tim can steer me right
 
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Are you talking about the black plastic intake distributors:



Then yes, but very tight...
 
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Yeah, they're the ones

If I can get that thing off I think I can get straight to the Knock Sensor

If not I'll need to get a grabbing claw on it, which would help in removing the sensors connector, but would still leave reinstallation difficult
 
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Originally Posted by ant_8u
Yeah, they're the ones

If I can get that thing off I think I can get straight to the Knock Sensor

If not I'll need to get a grabbing claw on it, which would help in removing the sensors connector, but would still leave reinstallation difficult
My local tech did mine, so I can't personally tell you how he did it. I know he did not lower the engine, but I probably would. I think he had more trouble getting them back on and seated then off. Be sure to boost leak test after! Have fun!
 
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I'm sure he used a lot of bad language
 
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I'm sure he used a lot of bad language
lol he does even when he is not working on cars!
 
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Originally Posted by ant_8u
Tim

Could you have a look at this....

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ensor-1-a.html

I've got the y-pipe, alternator, and f-hose off

I can see the Knock sensor, but can't get to it
There's no wires on the sensor at all, so I need to be careful not to lose it during removal

Let me know what you think
Wow I missed that thread. What a mess. Well the good news is the sensor is not bad so you can leave it bolted down. the clips on the sensor face the back of the car so long needle nose will plug the clip off, I looked at my car and can easily see the knock sensor. In that thread you show a pic of the cut wires so you can splice and reconnect the plug. Was the plug damaged too? If so I have one. If you really need to get the intake half off you can but bank 1 is a major PIA. lower the motor on to the cross member and then you will need to unbolt the turbo intake pipe from the intake half. hopefully the hose clamps are facing a way that you can unscrew them. If not use a 1/4 ratchet with the socket that fits. I would do All I could not to remove that half. ALL I could do. Even getting a kid to slip their hand in there.

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Thanks Tim
Decision made then, I'll leave the intake in place and try to remove the plug with it in place

I've got one of these

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/pr...C=RV-040210605

I can grab the plug with it, but I can't remove it as the plug has a clip holding it in place

Would long nose pliers be any good or not?

Gonna leave this thread now as the decision has been made regarding the intake

I'll continue with the other thread though as that's to do with the sensor itself

Your help is appreciated Tim and very much welcomed - If you do post, can you put it in the sensor thread so I (and others) can see it all in one place

Thanks again everyone
 
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Is this enough wire? In the mail tomorrow.
 
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just lower/drop the engine a bit...

easy rnough
 


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