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Old Jul 23, 2012 | 08:08 PM
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EBwerks 60-130 comparison with Straight Pipes

Here are two runs from 50mph with straight pipes and EBWerks exhaust.

First is straight pipes from 50mph: 5.51 60-130 running 2.1bar max boost


EBwerks exhaust from 51mph: 5.29 60-130 running 1.99bar max boost (granted this one was a lightning quick 2/10th shift)


take it for whats it's worth. Same street, same car, similar weather (clear and hot/humid)
 
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It's really tough to go by, shift speed is different. I am not good at 60-130s at all but I have ran 5.1 5.3 5.2 5.5 in one night with plenty cool down on same road with no changes to the car. All at 2.0bar.
 
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Originally Posted by prodigymb
It's really though to go by, shift speed is different. I am not good at 60-130s at all but I have ran 5.1 5.3 5.2 5.5 in one night with plenty cool down on same road with no changes to the car. All at 2.0bar.
Nice times. What speed are you starting at? Start as low as you can in third. 30mph at least.
 
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great numbers , but comparing your times to other members who run the same setup you are runing now ,, your times are slow by .5sec !!! are you losing traction or slipping clutch maybe ?
 
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great numbers , but comparing your times to other members who run the same setup you are runing now ,, your times are slow by .5sec !!! are you losing traction or slipping clutch maybe ?
Lol dont you know he drives around with alot of sand in the trunk?? Dont worry his car is much faster than those ^ numbers
 
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Lol dont you know he drives around with alot of sand in the trunk?? Dont worry his car is much faster than those ^ numbers
He has been gaining weight lately.
 
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Originally Posted by ysfg35
great numbers , but comparing your times to other members who run the same setup you are runing now ,, your times are slow by .5sec !!! are you losing traction or slipping clutch maybe ?
BHT was not doing dedicated 60-130 runs. He started the runs at too high a speed for optimal times.
 
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Did you post your overall impressions of the EBWerks exhaust somewhere too? I'd like to read about them.
 
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Originally Posted by Steve Theodore
Did you post your overall impressions of the EBWerks exhaust somewhere too? I'd like to read about them.

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...-i-love-3.html

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...st-thread.html
 
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Originally Posted by joetwint
Lol dont you know he drives around with alot of sand in the trunk?? Dont worry his car is much faster than those ^ numbers
Exactly.
 
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Originally Posted by EBWerks
Nice Todd....I'm guessing the ebwerks exhaust is .110 bar, (which equals to 1.45 psi) more restrictive then straight pipes ? Is that why the loss of boost ?

How would you compare the ebwerks in terms of loss in power (compare to your straight pipes) vs other exhaust you have tested ? I'm just curious.
No, the boost was adjusted by me with the EBC. So, I made a better 60-130 with your pipes with less boost. I doubt there is any noticeable loss in power compared to straight pipes.
 
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You guys must be completely overlooking the part where he said he start at 50 mph. I have never seen anyone put up a substantial 60-130 time starting at that high of a speed. Especially trying to spool a bigger turbo. He put "the numbers" in context in his initial thread and all anyone seems to be commenting about is how those times seems slow or my car has done xx.xx lol. I think the point of the post was to illustrate that exclusive of a large number of variables, his car performs better with the EBWerks exhaust. I'm not the smartest guy in the world though, so who knows.
 
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Originally Posted by BlackHorseTurbo
Nice times. What speed are you starting at? Start as low as you can in third. 30mph at least.
i start around 48-50mph. starting at 30 helps slpool large turbos? i never had luck starting that low.... i'll give it a shot. thanks for the tip !
 
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Originally Posted by prodigymb
i start around 48-50mph. starting at 30 helps slpool large turbos? i never had luck starting that low.... i'll give it a shot. thanks for the tip !
You've got a couple of tenths in your pocket if you've been starting that high. Do you brake boost?
 
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Originally Posted by bmoores
You've got a couple of tenths in your pocket if you've been starting that high. Do you brake boost?
nope, ive tried before and flet like it took longer afterwards... i'll try again. i dont really build boost that low lol
 
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