Ok. So I have decided for the most part to keep my turbo. My next question deals with the stock GT2 suspension vs. an upgraded 996TT. I am thinking of either the X74, PSS10's, or KW's. My reason being that my car will be for the street 80% of the time and I don't need the extra cost and sacrifice of a Moton or something more aggressive.

My idea for this question is does a stock GT2 outperform a 996TT with one of these systems assuming all else is equal (same tires, brake pads, etc.)

I am not trying to brag but I raced pretty well for about 10 years and then tracked everything I could until about a year ago (divorce anyone?!). So I can definitely exploit most of these cars potential. But as a last argument for me keeping my 996TT I just want to make sure the upgrades I do are worth the money as opposed to getting a GT2. Once I got the GT2 I would not be able to do much in the way of upgrades as the difference in price is nearly all the money I have available.

 

Go for the GT2 for the weight savings alone. You can't better this with suspension upgrades to the turbo.

 

I would recommend the PSS10's with a rear adjustable H&R swaybar for a great street setup.

Later, Steve

 

I have Pss9's, Carbon Strut Braces, Eibach Adjustable Sways and Tarrett Drop Links plus semi soild motor and gear box mounts keep everything very tight.

With correct Alignment I doubt you can get a better set up.

Turn in is as fast as my Boxster since having the above done.

 

And my supercharged boxster has the same suspension mods as my turbo

 

 

Don't even think about it ... had both. GT2 is a far superior car, and is also a GT2
Don't waste your money with PSS10 or anything like that.
KWs clubsport or Moton either clubsport or 3 ways, otherwise I wouldn't spend my $
Not to say that the turbo still have the stupid PSM, that is really intrusive.

 

He said 80% street, so I am unsure about your advice?

To the OP...

With PSS10s, sways and lowered to GT2 height you are very close. For street you will walk the GT2 unless racing Walter Rohl. ;-). Track different story, again only if GT2 is in capable hands.

 

right street. The comfort and capability of KW or Moton, with proper spring rates are far superior than a bilstein.
Never upgraded sway bars on my GT2. Porsche is a very smart company, and if the car is driven properly, and NOT poorly like 90% of the times, the GT2 will be a blast in every single way.
My old car was a CUP with interior, and upgraded shocks, and still a blast to drive to the track and back and also on the street.

GT2, far superior car. Most people that say that a GT2 is difficult to drive, either never had one or never had their car aligned.
My vote is to the GT2 any day...

 

PSS10's I have them and there great ....bang on the buck.
If you have the money for the GT2 set up then ok, but a fair bit of GT2 is about Geo. you can have some great Geo dialed into PSS10's to give excellent all round handling.
My car is chalk and cheese now with PSS10's compared to the OEM set up.

 

this is a total load of crap

 

right, maybe if you have the opportunity to drive both, and track both cars, you would change your mind ...
Don't forget this is a forum, and we are entitled to our point of view and opinion.

 

I own both cars. My 996T has PSS9s and I consider it super smooth and sporting at the same time. A definite Improvement over stock. but the GT2 delivers a more refined ride. Granted my TT has 19" tires which does make for a much more jarring ride. The tires alone can account for the difference.

The only issue I see with the PSS line is that you can only lower the car 1" before you start limiting travel and hitting the bump-stops. Not necessarily a problem on a street car IMO. The HIGHEST ride height on the possible on GT2 is already 1" lower than a TT.

If you're planning on going super low, I believe the KWs offer more adjustability to let you lower the TT while maintaining the wheel travel needed for proper suspension movement.

The GT2 is practically a race car and at 3150 LB it's a solid 350lb lighter than most TTs with typical options. There isn't much of a sacrifice in terms of ride comfort honestly. The only major drawback is the lack of rear seats which I would gladly take for a 20lb penalty....

 

Stock for stock the GT2 is the better car, of that there is no doubt and if you are a pro driver, the one you want. However, a turbo can be modded easily to surpass a stock GT2. Same structure different components that can be changed.

Here are lap times for all three 996's, GT2, GT3, Turbo all stock and the turbo with a 200lb weight disadvantage and awd which in dry helps loose more power:

track GT3 GT2 Turbo
Nurburgring 7:56:33 7:46 7:56
Hocknhem shrt 1:13.97 1:12.6 1:14.6
Sugo 1:38.94 1:40.52
Tsukuba 1:07.68 1:05.65
Vairano 1:18.99 1:20.8

Seems like when all stock, the turbo and the GT3 are about the same and the GT2 predictably better. But just dropping weight in the turbo can bring it close to the GT2, after all 200 lbs difference is a lot on the track. Certainly not the spanking that some make it out to be.

Also, I can tell you of many instances in mountain drives where that stupid psm(your words) saved lives. I have seen more GT2's wrapped around poles than even GT3's. What does that say, that even with good drivers it is a far more dangerous car. Hence why the 997GT2 has a psm setup. The 997GT2 is truly the king and way better than the 996GT2 or Turbo's. But the difference in performance between stock cars can easily be overcome with mods and many in here have proven it, with their turbo's. And of course the driver mod.

I think Mikelly still has pss9's in his car, if you are ever near VIR you can meet up with him some day. See if you can stay on the tail of his 996TT.

 

VIR is a high HP track, so a decently set up car with big power will sure be fast.
2:02 is what my old GT2 did at VIR.
2:18 Sebring on PS2 street tires.

If raw speed is what a car good, so I'm not even going to reply here anymore, as this discussion has no points.
I go back again, own both, drive both and give me YOUR impressions.
There is a lot more to the car than raw speed. The feeling of a GT2 is 10 times better than a 996TT. Not to say that the $$$ you will spend to make the car ''better'' than a GT2, at the end of the day, will be worth pennies to the dollar.
If I was just looking for raw speed car, I'll be probably driving a different car than my GT3RS.