i dont really want to name the dealership just yet until i work out what to do.

i got the car for 42900 and it has a bit over 31000 miles. overall it looks good and drives well i dont think it was in any kind of accident judging front dust and dirt accumulation between body panels it doesnt look like the car has been taken apart at all. i removed the rear bumper and intercoolers to do plugs and im pretty sure thats the first time it has been removed.i think the rear quarter panels where resprayed to cover rock chips and the job looks like it was done well except for overspray on the wheel well liners which for me was very had to notice when i inspected the car because it is metallic black paint and they detailed it and armouralled the liners which made the paint blend in. It might very well be a decent car but i just wish the ppi would have informed me of everything.

 

Hi,

I do vehicle expert witness consulting for attorneys (mostly motorcycles) but think you have a likely repair fraud case. Do everything in writing, but ask for a return of funds based on the fraud. When they refuse, Lawyer Up!

I see a case. Just saying....


FBS

 

I agree PPIs are not equal. I had my car brought in from another province and had scheduled a PPI at the dealership because I couldn't view the car myself (it was in another province). The seller brought the car to my dealership for the PPI the day I was to hand over the funds. The dealer showed me the PPI when I went to pay for it and I could not believe what I saw. About a hundred check marks - wipers, lights, tires inflated... All totally useless stuff. I asked about the state of the clutch and they said: "I don't know we didn't check that". Luckily, my car turned out to be OK, but it was just that - luck.

 

you're talking about bringing suit against an entity that advised you at your expense to inspect something? that was not even "theirs". what are you going to do? charge that the dealership colluded with the owner(s) of the car in an effort to "defraud" you and misrepresent that which was inspected's "condition"? good luck, not gonna happen. onus was on you. as i read this the car was not a Porsche Certified Pre-Owned vehicle ( with any/all accompanying guarantees that are provided by PCNA ). it was merely a privately owned car you asked them to inspect. big difference.

for a PPI at an authorized porsche dealership or to "certify" the condition of the car ( as in the case of a CPO'd car which is NOT a component of a PPI although they use the same "list" ) they in fact use the standard "cpo checklist" and that doesn't tell you whether there was a "respray" or not. i can tell you that if more than one quarter panel of the car was repainted it can not ( for example ) be CPO'd and it is not disclosed you have grounds for misrepresentation. IF IT WAS THIER CAR and CPO'D. but according to your story, it wasn't. sorry to say, you got nothin'..

i'd simply fix the car. none of that stuff is ( sounds like ) that big a deal.

 

Post some pics of the corrosion.

 

no one in this brief recount of events has established that any "fraud" exists, to the degree that a case might ever be heard. in my view.

 

Probably a case of incompetence rather than fraud.

They somehoe did not lift the car and assumed it had been and found no problems.

tino

 

Did the OP not say it was an official Porsche dealer?? So, it should not be incompetence and if it is, Porsche NA should bet a call to find out what the next steps might look like. Assume that Porsche NA will be very interested in making sure the Organization operates at or above the standard(s) set out in the Dealership agreement(s).

 

Porsche NA is a stupid Joke

Yes we all know that being a specialist Porsche exclusive shop they should know these cars inside out but those monkeys are good only for warranty work and that too on latest cars only...that's it.

If I ever have to get a PPI done on any car next time especially by one of these monkeys, I make sure I am there to see the PPI being done.

Since these stealerships know, that Porsche NA doesn't get involve with their day to day activities, they do what ever they like to

Once again Porsche NA is a friggen

 

If you could find the RIGHT person at Porsche NA., or perhaps at the Porsche Club in your area might be able to help. You never know unless you give it a try.

 

My buddy recently purchased an 86 911 with 491 package. The car was inspected by a P dealer and passed with flying colors. The dealer noted that the left front fender was resprayed but the car was otherwise flawless.

When the truck arrived to deliver the car, the driver said it sounds bad and started it to reveal a major exhaust leak that turned out to be the infamous broken head/exhaust studs. When he called the dealer and spoke to the manager, they immediately refunded his inspection fee and apologized for missing it.

The seller said it was inspected and passed so he refused to help, the dealer said it must have happened in transit or the mechanic missed it, and they werent responsible. He spent a little over $10k repairing it and also found out the whole car was resprayed at some point and the fender that they mentioned was fixed after the repaint.

My buddy thinks the seller paid off the service writer or tech or both as there was enough evidence of exhaust leakage but how do you prove it.

 

Not to steal your thread, but how bad is it to respray parts of the car ?? I have some normal rock chip type stuff on the front bumper and hood. Bumper is fairly rough, hood not too bad, but I was thinking about respraying the bumper and possibly the hood. Is there a accepted method of documenting this before doing it to show there wasn't an accident ? If I decide to sell it down the road, I want to avoid this type of scrutiny.

 

i dont thinki respraying chips is necessarily a bad thing its just not worth the same amount as a car that has not been resprayed. I like the car and probably wouldnt give it back i just think its probably worth less than what i paid based on what i've found.

I jut got done taking the front apart to clean the rads and everything looks good up there some rusty screws that I needed to take care of.

 

From what Ive seen they all get some corrosion on fastners underneath but usually not that severe unless driven on salted roads.Mine was not used in winter and has 12850mi and has only light signs.I would fix the problem areas and enjoy it as it will be an uphill battle to get them to see the light lol=just my opinion.