OK a buddy of mind just got a local re-map/flash to his stock '01 TT. Night
and Day compared to my stock TT.
Now I want it, but I heard a re-map to 1.2 bars with stock turbos, gates, (Tip) driveline and hoses is a recipe for future dependability problems.
Forum thoughts on pushing our stock components to 1.2 bars (cheap re-map for less than 1K). thank you

 

Me? I would avoid an unknown flash like the plague.
Get a reliable flash...also for less than $1000.
Even better, get a datalogger with your flash and know exactly where you stand. There are many reputable tuners to choose from. I personally recommend Kevin at UMW.
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...-975-00-a.html

YMMV

 

Looking for trouble. That's a lot of boost for stock turbos. You are likely out of injector too. As has been said, don't buy a fly by night tune. Stick to the Known tuners. I use EPL.

 

I ran 1.2 bars on my first GIAC flash with no problems but it was an X-50 with K24s..

 

1.2 on K24s when I started with the car also

 

I'm with you on the reputable tuners, I would avoid a generic flash like the plague. A custom tailored tune from a reputable tuner done on a dyno is the way to go.

A simple flash and go is kind of like buying a suit at Walmart, it works but you can tell difference.

 

i believe the conventional wisdom on tt tunes is that a 1.0 bar flash is optimal for k16's and k24's ( x50 ) are optimized to 1.2. this of course pre-supposes the tune is from a company not experimenting with your car. for ref, my car has 16/24's and is tuned for 1.2 with spikes of 1.3.

 

I have an EVOMSIT tune and tiptronic remap. I assume most would say they are a reputable firm, with extensive tuning experience, even if not your cup of tune so to speak.
Depending on weather conditions, I have seen 1.2 on rare occasion, with stock turbos. If not mistaken, atmospheric (temp, humidity, etc) are what "asks" or demands the appropriate boost. So while I don't see that boost often, I don't think I'm putting an undue strain on the car. Is this wrong?

 

it's not *right* or *wrong* per se. what it isn't? is normal for a k16 flash. 9's and consistent 1.0 is. moisture and humidity will provide momentary dashboard thrills. which is how i catch glimpses of 1.3. but in terms of frequency, it's up there with flying pig/ufo sightings.

reliable safe tunes on a stock car should never boost beyond 1.0. tell me i'm wrong. overboosting might be symptomatic of something else going on, and i'm not saying there is... but again, 1.2 spikes are not *normal* for a k16 flashed 96t.

'cup of tune" just caught that. nice ha.

 

Scary fast at 1.2 bars which was hit consistently. It was noticeably faster just off idle. The owner says he even gets better gas mileage. Uses 91 pump gas in Calif.

 

I thought 1.1 was just fine with stock components. I've had my car at 1.1 for 30k miles

 

I have stock K16's with a Softronic 91octane 1.1 bar tune and I can hit 1.2 with the occasional 1.3(especially under 70 degrees) spikes even in AZ summer. IMO anytime you tune any vehicle components (ex. turbos) will wear out a little quicker. My car has been tuned for the last 20,000 miles.

 

How about I send you a tune for a few days so you can appreciate the difference and then have you and your buddy switch..

 

OK guys, give me some facts and figures on why its a risk. What could go wrong/bad. My buddy's been running this tune for 6 months and his TT is a rocket. A couple of hundred here or there is not the issue but the performance and dependability is. But I got to say if I published the cost for this tune ... I'm thinking a line of TTs would be in for a thrill of their life for the cost of a family of four to Disneyland and dinner.

 

has your buddy done any datalogging at all? does he know what the lamda is at 3500 to 7000 rpm? does he know what the timing is at open loop? most cars runs the best just before they blow!! if he is logging and the data shows the tune to be effective and safe run it. if not and your basing your results on tthe seat of the pants effect stay with a known tuner who will keep the car at a safe level for the fuel run