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Old Jul 25, 2013 | 08:45 AM
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ECU Flashing Issue - Any thoughts?

This seems a bit odd, I was hoping someone on the board may have some insight or thoughts as to why this is happening.

When I purchased my vehicle, it had a Giac Flash with their flashing tool. This is a dongle that allows you to switch between Stock, Pump and Race maps by pressing a button on the dongle. It's a pretty quick switch, takes 2-3 seconds to switch maps.

Fast forward, a year later the car is extensively modded and required a retune. I send my ECU out to Markski @ 911tuning and he does a bench flash for my Alpha 28 setup.

Since we used a conservative tune, we decided to use his flashing tool to update the map after logging. Here is the issue.

-I can read the map
-Markski receives the map, adjusts, sends back.
-I upload map to flashing tool
-I try to write map to the ECU through flashing tool / OBDII port, it errors.

We've tried two different flashing units. It seems to be an issue specifically with my vehicle / ECU, but I am not sure where to start. Remember, he was able to bench flash the ECU and the car is running on a good baseline map, makes good power, just needs minor adjustments.

I've e-mailed GIAC, they may have something on the ECU that's preventing a new flash file from being written. I am waiting for an answer.

This post is to get insight on why this may be happening, not to say you should have went with xyz tune. I am happy with Markski's methods and the tune he's provided thus far. I am trying to determine where my vehicle / ECU may have an issue and if anyone has any idea on how to clear and/or troubleshoot.

I was also informed that I can do a K-Line check through a durametric? This is supposed to check the lines to/from the OBDII port to the ECU. I have verion 6.x, I have to e-mail them as well.

Thoughts/Suggestions?

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Old Jul 25, 2013 | 09:42 AM
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You might have to send your ECU to Markski.
 
Old Jul 25, 2013 | 10:05 AM
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You might have to send your ECU to Markski.
Right. I didn't want to do this until I've put in some effort to fixing the problem. Ultimately I may end up sending him my ECU 5 or 6 times until the flash is where I want it... however, I need to fix the issue as I'd like to switch between a 91 and a 100 map easily.
 
Old Jul 25, 2013 | 11:20 AM
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is it recognizing your cable ? i had that issue last night trying to flash mine, i switched the cable to a different usb port in my laptop and it recognized it and flashed it fine
 
Old Jul 25, 2013 | 11:21 AM
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I am not flashing it through a laptop, I am using a handheld tuner.

I can read the map just fine, can't write it.

I can use the durametric to log just fine, only problem I have is writing via the flash tool.
 
Old Jul 25, 2013 | 11:26 AM
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If we can write it on the bench and then it doesn't do it on car it may be the connections...
but we would have to try that first....
 
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i also had a giac tune when i got my car. move to epl tune , flashing cable and secure server. make 3 tunes on the car. after chasing gremlins for months i swap out the dme and receive a new file to load. car wont take the tune. try 20+ times without success. send my laptop , 2 dme's the cable to epl and they have everything checked with no issues and bench flash the dme. car runs fine and im awaiting a new file to flash.
btw my durametric cable works fine every time i use it
waiting on the file to see if i will be able to flash unknown at this time if i will be able to
 
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Yeah, from what I gather, bench flashing is ideal, but the most inconvenient.

Flashers are hit and miss, though 100's of people use them without problems.

My dilemma is the multiple maps, I want to be able to switch between them. Only way to do that is a separate eeprom and a switch. $$$$$$$$$$
 
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
i also had a giac tune when i got my car. move to epl tune , flashing cable and secure server. make 3 tunes on the car. after chasing gremlins for months i swap out the dme and receive a new file to load. car wont take the tune. try 20+ times without success. send my laptop , 2 dme's the cable to epl and they have everything checked with no issues and bench flash the dme. car runs fine and im awaiting a new file to flash.
btw my durametric cable works fine every time i use it
waiting on the file to see if i will be able to flash unknown at this time if i will be able to
Sounds like the same issue I am having.
 
Old Jul 25, 2013 | 12:27 PM
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I'm not a fan of Giac. I use Evom or protomotive.


I hope you get it resolved i know i would be tapping my feet waiting to drive my car lol.
 
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FWIW
I also used Markskis tune but installed though the cable. Couple of times.
No fuss no drama no problems
 
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GIAC did use several difernet things to lock their ECUs. Its most likely that. Just send it out and have it benchflashed again or replace it. I might have a spare.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2013 | 01:27 PM
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I agree, TurboTodd. Nothing wrong with Markski or his tune. It's an issue with my ECU/Car.

Prodigymb - I can do the benchflash method over and over again until it's right. Still can't swap maps. I want to rune the same boost level with advanced timing, for 100. Unfortunately, the cost of a replacement ECU + programming from dealer isn't feasible, I could also run into problems - like 32krazy.
 
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Can you flash it back to stock at all ?
 
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I flashed it back to the stock setting on the GIAC flasher before i sent it to Markski. However, the stock setting on the flasher wasn't a "stock" map, it was a modified stock map.

Even if it were flashed back to stock, I don't think it would help.

GIAC says that once you bench flash it, their tune is gone. However, I don't think they are very forthcoming. There are probably other things done that they will not disclose or mention.

I have limited options, especially for a dual-map tune that I want to toggle between.
 


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