996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

Next Step up from K24/18g??

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Old Nov 1, 2013 | 09:31 PM
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If i do this turbo upgrade rods will be going in at the same time. The meth will be ran with the 3076's if I go with that turbo.
 
Old Nov 2, 2013 | 06:05 AM
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Do yourself a favor and just do a complete fuel system. If I've learned anything over the many many years of building fast cars, don't skimp on fuel. Anything short of a custom fuel system is a band aid. You seemed willing to spend $6k on turbos, spend that, or less, on fuel first.
So yes, new pump (many setups to chose from, do a search here), FPR, new lines, rails and injectors. After THIS, you can do just about anything you want...You NEED fuel.
 
Old Nov 2, 2013 | 08:29 AM
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Do yourself a favor and just do a complete fuel system. If I've learned anything over the many many years of building fast cars, don't skimp on fuel. Anything short of a custom fuel system is a band aid. You seemed willing to spend $6k on turbos, spend that, or less, on fuel first.
So yes, new pump (many setups to chose from, do a search here), FPR, new lines, rails and injectors. After THIS, you can do just about anything you want...You NEED fuel.
I have all of that basically done already I just dont list it in my signature....
 
Old Nov 2, 2013 | 08:42 AM
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Then I would say you are a set of 3076's away from 750-800whp, give or take?
 
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Meth adds fuel, so you don’t need such large injectors with meth. If you don't want to go to a complete fuel setup you probably want to add an inline 044 and upgrade the feed line to a -8 line. I'm not positive about 72# injectors but I am positive with 80lb injectors can run to 900+whp with meth as long as you have big fuel pumps. Stock pump + 044 in line makes about 780whp max with 80’s and a -8 fuel line. 80’s with dual 044’s in parallel in tank can make 900whp. I would guess just a bit less than the above with a tiny bit smaller injector.

Regardless, whatever fuel setup you have its just a matter of the tuner catering to that setup.
 
Old Nov 2, 2013 | 11:14 AM
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The good thing about running 72 injectors and an additional 044 pump is besides being a reliable proven set-up is that also it will handle all the fuel needed to the Stock internal limits,,,,,thats if you were going to stay with a stock short block...
 
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Why don't you just start building a short block? Maybe you can have that done before you blow your motor.
 
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Originally Posted by pumptech
Why don't you just start building a short block? Maybe you can have that done before you blow your motor.
Why are you being a tool? With rods and port polishing the motor can easily handle 700-800 whp let alone 1000whp.............
 
Old Nov 2, 2013 | 08:17 PM
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not being a tool, but good of you to be one right off the bat without considering my intent. and what does port polish have to do with strength of motor? sounds like you already have it all figured out. you really gonna spend $15K-$20K just to replace the rods?? no....your going to do a handful of other things

you can buy all the parts needed to build a short block for about $8500-9500 and a long block about $3000 more. this includes crankcase (used), crankshaft (used), rods, 3.8 pistons/sleeves, GT3 oil pump, GT3 IMS, and other hardware. obviously you dont have to do all that and could cut out couple thousand. have the short block built while still driving your car and saving months of down time and when its finished swap the top end stuff over and you can either keep the old short block for parts or re-sell it. i think someone said they paid $7500 for a used long block. i suspect you could get $5000 for a short block or keep for parts.

or you could be down for 6-9 months while your motor is out, spend $20k+ anyway, and possibly blow your motor in the meantime. i have seen well built USED short blocks on here for $25k and more and an unassembled built long block for $30K!! just offering suggestions new guy.

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Why are you being a tool? With rods and port polishing the motor can easily handle 700-800 whp let alone 1000whp.............
 
Old Nov 2, 2013 | 09:37 PM
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can you sell your 911 and buy a bimmer already?

you would fit in well with that crowd.

you crowd the forums with your bull$hit questions, then you go ahead and post your car for sale, now youre calling people a tool?

dipsticks like you are the reason people dont visit and contribute to forums anymore.
 
Old Nov 2, 2013 | 09:53 PM
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No doubt! Every question he asked has plenty of discussion. What power can you get with 18g and 20g?? Really?? Ever been to 911tuning.com and looked around? However, I do hold the record for the dumbest question in recent history.
 
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Let's not bring down the bummer crowd. I came from there
 
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Let's not bring down the bummer crowd. I came from there
bimmer. Stupid iPhone
 
Old Nov 2, 2013 | 10:16 PM
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So since I have known a select shop for sometime, to do rods including the cost of them (they can source them for me), I can get it done for 6-7 thousand..........I was told out of commission for 2 weeks.

I can also get the turbos I am looking at wholesale cost.

The only other thing I would do is possibly the GT3 oil pump other than that I would be content. Considering the motor was out a year ago and had a FULL once over on all parts, gaskets and various pumps and sensors I dont need to do that.

Never said port and polishing strengthened the engine, just saying that addition with rods you can get to 1000whp all day long and not have to touch pistons, crank..... I may come on here and ask average basic questions, but that is only to get peoples opinions on things I already know or have researched or to gain even more knowledge.

Just don't make assumptions. I definitely appreciate the advice. Maybe I just read your comment wrong originally because it seemed like you were wishing ill will.


I was just under the impression with a proper fuel system, rods and lets say the 3076's I can safely put down 750whp and not having to worry about blowing my motor, especilly when the octane level is raised by the addition of meth injection with pump.

So thats 750whp on 100+ octane (meth + 93) and rods and fail safes.



In my mind thats a safer bet, am I wrong??









Originally Posted by pumptech
not being a tool, but good of you to be one right off the bat without considering my intent. and what does port polish have to do with strength of motor? sounds like you already have it all figured out. you really gonna spend $15K-$20K just to replace the rods?? no....your going to do a handful of other things

you can buy all the parts needed to build a short block for about $8500-9500 and a long block about $3000 more. this includes crankcase (used), crankshaft (used), rods, 3.8 pistons/sleeves, GT3 oil pump, GT3 IMS, and other hardware. obviously you dont have to do all that and could cut out couple thousand. have the short block built while still driving your car and saving months of down time and when its finished swap the top end stuff over and you can either keep the old short block for parts or re-sell it. i think someone said they paid $7500 for a used long block. i suspect you could get $5000 for a short block or keep for parts.

or you could be down for 6-9 months while your motor is out, spend $20k+ anyway, and possibly blow your motor in the meantime. i have seen well built USED short blocks on here for $25k and more and an unassembled built long block for $30K!! just offering suggestions new guy.
 
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Originally Posted by Turkish
can you sell your 911 and buy a bimmer already?

you would fit in well with that crowd.

you crowd the forums with your bull$hit questions, then you go ahead and post your car for sale, now youre calling people a tool?

dipsticks like you are the reason people dont visit and contribute to forums anymore.
Just stay out of the thread if you aren't going to contribute. You have posted nothing but negative crap over the course of your stay on this site. Maybe you should go back and review your posts. Talk about a reason no one wants to be on a forum. You shoot people down for asking questions on an open forum and belittle their cars and modifications. Talk about a hypocrite. Jeez....
 


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