996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 06:53 AM
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What's a wavetrac LSD run?

for you RWD guys, has anyone wanted to go back? Does the *** end ever slide out on hard cornering?
 
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1295.00 US. plus install ( not cheap.. trans out (duh lol )


think of it like tuning the car. how many guys go back to stock for the sheer fun of it ? lol
 
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1295.00 US. plus install ( not cheap.. trans out (duh lol )


think of it like tuning the car. how many guys go back to stock for the sheer fun of it ? lol


yikes.
 
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i know. but you won't find one guy willing to go back to awd after conversion absent snow lol
 
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Originally Posted by '02996ttx50
i know. but you won't find one guy willing to go back to awd after conversion absent snow lol
touche. I imagine inlets and i/c piping would be on the list before the LSD... or just pay the ****er off.
 
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touche. I imagine inlets and i/c piping would be on the list before the LSD... or just pay the ****er off.
100% there's tons of stuff i would do first and yes, paying it off is a great start! lol. but if you enjoy smashing thru corners? rwd is the only way to fly.
 
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Awd is why I bought a turbo over a gt2. It makes the car a bullet with little effort. That's what I like about it
 
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AWD felt squat, fat and PLANTED. Stuck to the road.

RWD feels light, direct and a little wild. Passing over the road.

I love it
 
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Originally Posted by '02996ttx50
1295.00 US. plus install ( not cheap.. trans out (duh lol )


think of it like tuning the car. how many guys go back to stock for the sheer fun of it ? lol
no need to remove the trans to remove or install the diff. it can be done in the car. once the diff is out everything is done on the bench
 
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I started off AWD, tried RWD, hated it went back to AWD, but ultimately settled for RWD because I do competitive Time Trialing and it's so hard to get the weight down plus NASA penalizes for AWD. Took me a while, but I got the RWD tuned to where I like it. However, were my car still a street car, I would keep the AWD for sure.

If you set your car up, and run the right tires (depending on WHP) you can make it stick. But it will never stick as much as AWD.

Put it this way, if Porsche had actually tuned any of the Turbo's suspensions like they did the GT3. Their wouldnt be a need for a GT2 because that would be slower, and people would only buy the GT3 for the weight savings and high revs because it would have been slower too. Hence the reason the AWD Turbo's get the dull suspensions.
 

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what does it take to convert to rwd?
 
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Take the front diff out, which is fairly easy, the remove the front axles which is slightly more challenging. There are some DIY's on here. I would not do it on stock suspension. You need to be able to adjust the ride height afterwards. You also need an LSD (limited slip diff). Those are things you probably don't want to tackle on your own.
 
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
no need to remove the trans to remove or install the diff. it can be done in the car. once the diff is out everything is done on the bench
really? it's definitely a bench job and mine was out for install as iirc there is a flange that needs to be installed? i wasn't there for the trans work i had done, so my details might be sketchy.

in any event, here's a great and technical explanation of why the tbd works so well in these cars. http://www.torsen.com/files/Traction...ol_Article.pdf

and ca motorsports currently has a wavertac for sale for 1000 bucks. if anyone has trans work upcoming, i'd sure recommend they get one installed.
 
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
Hence the reason the AWD Turbo's get the dull suspensions.
i had always figured the tt was just the more genteel version of what with mods, makes an acceptable if not equal challenger to the gt2. eg a properly modded turbo is a reasonable facsimile of a gt2? no? but of course we have to do all the right stuff to make them closer to the gt2 in terms of ride/performance etc.

... and that the awd and softer suspension etc on the stock tt's was in recognition of the fact that most of the early adopters of the turbo cars not only needed the assistance the awd setup can and does provide, but also that the stock tt's are far more "streetable" obviously than what most of us end up doing to them in our effort to maximize the potential of the car for most anything other than normal city driving. but again, i'm just offering up a supposition.

so in a way? i kinda think the TT is more of an actual "GT" car than the gt2 exactly because of the awd stuff. at least the way i understand the gt class of cars. could be wrong on that one though lol
 
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It's Porsche using the same tool to fit mutiple demographics. A super fast Turbo would cannibalize the sales of the GT2 for sure and even the GT3. A turbo with a GT2 suspension/power, less weight and aggressive alignment would be just that. Or better yet, adding AWD to the GT2 (adds only 75 lbs). However it has worked out very well for Porsche being able to fit multiple markets with basically the same car. AWD is a GT sort of thing, but tuned properly and connected with the right suspension, can be very potent in terms of speed.

Ultimately I still see it as a drivers aid, so I prefer not to have it (on the track), but when you are talking about street cars on street tires, AWD is a beast.
 


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