No, I'm not asking for a debate on carbs versus proteins ;-)

Especially for those in California (or any other CARB required state), who out there actually has a CARB certified Air Intake and/or Exhaust system?

It doesn't seem like one exists. Why not? (or if it does, please share).

Thanks,

Andy

 

Europipe may be certified - check with them.

 

No other state besides California will have CARB=California Air Resources Board. Just an FYI not trying to be a jerk That said I'm interested to know too. I'm pretty sure manufacturers have to apply and pay for CARB Exemption . I know I waited like 2 years for a CARB EO Sticker and paperwork for an Injen intake. It did help with visual inspection and even helped hide other mods or make them look like part of the exemption

 

Haha. Ok good point. What I didn't want was to restrict people from non-California states to answering. If they have CARB certified Intake or Exhaust, I want to hear about it :-) But, I understood that a number of states of adopted the California emission standards.

Yes, I hear that it costs more for the manufacturer, because someone has to certify their process in addition to the end product.

I'm guessing since you're interested, that the Injen intake was not for your 996 :-)

 

i think that's exactly right. my recent exhaust for example is TUV certified for EU but i'm told they don't want to deal with the certification requirements that exist "here". hence, any visible aftermarket part is, or could be, subject to "flagging".

add: without the carb number that is.

 

So a CARB legal exhaust has to have a catalytic converter be certified as CARB OBD-II compliant converter. This is what makes an exhaust legal for CARB. If you had a cat back exhaust, you are legal.
The following is plagiarized :

New California and EPA rules mandate that:
(A) The vehicle is specifically included in the vehicle California application list for which the new aftermarket catalytic converter has been exempted;

(B) The vehicle is more than 7 years old or has more than 70,000 miles on its odometer;

(C) The vehicle is beyond the coverage of the OEM catalyst warranty period (which can vary from 7 years or 70,000 miles to as high as 15 years or 150,000 miles). Installers may reference the vehicle owner’s manual/warranty booklet or contact the vehicle manufacturer or its representative to verify the applicable OEM catalyst warranty;

(D) The vehicle has a legitimate need for replacement of the existing converter that has been established and documented by the installer. The actual manufacturer’s warranty period for an individual vehicle is listed in the vehicle’s owner’s manual and/or warranty booklet. Examples of current warranty periods include seven years and 70,000 miles, eight years and 80,000 miles, and 15 years and 150,000 miles, depending on the vehicle. If the OEM converter is present, the installer must make a determination that it is not functioning properly before acting to replace it;

(E) The exempted new aftermarket catalytic converter is installed in the same location as the OEM catalytic converter it is designed to replace. The front face of the installed catalytic converter shall be no more than three inches further upstream or downstream in the exhaust from where the front face of the OEM catalytic converter was located. The installation may not alter the location, position, or orientation of oxygen sensors upstream and downstream of the catalytic converter(s);

(F) The exempted new aftermarket catalytic converter is installed on a one-for one catalytic converter basis;

(G) The exempted new aftermarket catalytic converter is installed with all other required catalytic converters (no consolidation of catalytic converters, nor addition of extra catalytic converters is allowed); and

(H) A California warranty card has been filled out by the installer, signed by the customer, attached to the repair invoice, and a copy returned to the manufacturer.

(I) Installers shall keep documentation regarding the installation of the new aftermarket catalytic converters including all of the above information. This documentation shall be made available to ARB or its representative as provided for in title 13, section 2222(b)(8). All such records shall be maintained for four years from the date of sale or installation of the catalytic converter.

That said, it comes down to the smog inspection station you go to certify whether you are CARB legal, at least on the exhaust side.

Many have said it here and I'll summarize: Intakes on our cars are not really worth it unless you have approached mad power and then you are running something way different than some aftermarket intake

 

The CARB exemption for Injen Intake was for Evo 9 . A fun car . I bought an exhaust with 200 cell cats to keep smell down and plan on changing it every time a smog test is required. As far as intake im staying stock as everything I have read says no real gains especially at the lower power levels I will be at.

 

I have 200 cel cats on mine and no issue with smog tests at all.

 

Wow, that's more than an eye-full of information ! :-) Thanks. :-)

I noticed you're in Northern California, and from what I can tell from your signature, a 'non-stock' exhaust :-). How are you dealing with the every-two-year smog tests?

 

You don't have issues with the 'visual' check part of the smog-tests?

 

^ re: "visual"; my smog guy says as long as the SEE the cats on any aftermarket exhaust, it's their call. though if they are sticklers, the "missing" "carb" or "bar" number could conceivably come into play.

 

As stated above, it is subjective to the smog station. My smog guy is a porsche owner also so he is more understanding.
When I had car smogged this year, I was more worried that my tune would not pass The toughest part of the test was the steady rpm test between ~2200-2800 rpm hold . The tech was very accommodating in getting that rpm must right to pass

 

Very nice !:-)