Bolting on a blower on a 911 is something I will never understand. But to each his own.

Faster than a Stage 4 doesn't mean a whole lot to those who have "been there, done that." Say you beat a Protomotive Turbo with twin Garrett ball bearings or a Ruf R Turbo and then this thread *might* be interesting.

Actually, it would still be a retarded thread, because even if a standard Carrera made 1000000000000 hp, a Turbo/GT2 would still be the better car.

I don't understand this board's obsession with drag racing. You want straight line fast, go buy a new Vette or a gutted Civic.

 

You get it but don't get it at the same time.

First of all, different strokes for different folks. You like your GT2 or GT3. Now, there might be someone who gets just as much enjoyment or happiness from a 996 C2 Cab. Say this guy loves his car, doesn't want to trade it in, but wants more power for daily enjoyment. What is the option? Supercharger of course.

The turbo might be better to you, but some guy on here might love his NA 996 or 997 as much as you love your GT2. You can't measure that, and you can't measure the smile a supercharger might put on the guys face.

Plus, sometimes it is fun to drag race with a platform that isn't traditionally associated with drag racing. Supercharging a 996 or 997 and seeing what you can get out of it is different than the norm of tuning a turbo. It is fun to see how far you can push a certain platform. Sure, it is established that the turbo can be tuned further and has been, but not too many people have explored the envelope with supercharged carreras. I respect both just the same, as the goal with either platform is taking something very good and making it better.

The bottom line: The guy who takes his porsche, whatever kind, and searches for more performance is an enthusiast, wether it be with a supercharger, turbo, or going all N/A.

 

If you had anything to say about TPC why not just say it so we can all know your personal experience instead of editing your post?

 

Very well put**

 

I actually didn't have any of the 3.8L dynos on my computer. They are all on our server. We are running 6 P.S.I in our supercharger systems at this point.

We actually are considering doing a "Stage 2" type kit that includes a motor build. The reason why we haven't really pushed that type of kit onto the market is that there doesn't seem to be a lot of demand for that type of package. We rarely have a customer that wants to take his 996 past a basic supercharger. Most guys looking at investing 20-30K in a 996 supercharger system will most likely goto a turbo because they are much cheaper to tune. A Stage 4 GT does run around 20K, but it does not require motor work. Most customers are a bit weary of tearing into their motors. Unless you are a gear head or a speed junkie, a proposition like that can be a bit intimidating.

Secondly, we have so many projects going on right now that we honestly don't have the time to develop a kit of that nature. I agree with you that it would be a pretty sweet package to offer, and I am sure that we will have it available soon enough. We just want to make sure that when it is released that it can be as reliable as our standard package. Thanks for the questions, if you guys want to see anything else or need more info don't hesitate to ask...

Nate

 

If you guys would be interested in developing a stage 2 supercharger package with forged internals I would definitely buy a carrera S in that case and give it to you guys to work on to develop that package with. Just let me know what you guys plan, a high hp supercharged car sounds like a lot of fun.

One question I do have is when will the 997 carrera S supercharger be available? If it is available soon that might influence my decision on what car to buy next.

Why do you have no times with the supercharged cars at the drag strip?

 

Let's face reality here, the only reason someone would put a blower on a NA 996 or 997 isn't because he loves the car so much, he just doesn't want to or cannot spend the money on a GT2/Turbo. The GT2 is in every single way superior to a C2 or C4.

The only way you could get comparable enjoyment from a C2 cab as a GT2, is if you have never been in or driven one. From suspension to braking to just about everything else, there is a world of a difference. Again, it comes down to economics. But, I believe that in life you often get what you pay for.

Pushing the "envelope" on a wet sump Porsche motor is not a very smart thing to do. Put R-compound tires and push some real G's at the track, and watch the motor die in front of you, as has happened to many C2/C4 owners. Well, I suppose most of these guys obsessed with superchargers don't track their cars too much anyway... oh well. How many supercharged race cars do you see today? How many race tuners use a supercharger?

I can understand someone building a 3.9-5.0L GT3 motor, but I really believe the supercharger is the easy way out. I am most surprised that even Ruf is starting to offer one, but as you can see, it is still relatively conservative and nothing compared to his various R Turbo iterations.

 

#1)...Enough with the arrogant "elitest" BS and assumptions. You come across very narrow minded, like a yuppy who's a label *****. Let me guess, you only wear armani and versace too becuase they have the best cuts and use the best fabrics, anyone wearing anything else is obviously poor and beneath you, lol If someone does any sort of search on your previous posts they can blatantly see the trend. Get over yourself.

#2) I agree that the GT2 is superior to the C2 in every way but the regular turbo isn't. I do not want a pig heavy AWD car on the track...and 500HP is more than enough for the track too. The wet sump can easily be addressed for the hardcore slick shod C2. Your typical clean GT2 will run anywhere from $110K-to-140K. For FAR less I can have a SC'ed RWD 3.6L C2 with a competition suspension on it with very comparable (if not better*) performance. (Mind you this being a comparison to a STOCK GT2) It's a great alternative to spending $140K on a used GT2, thats why all these people do it, and the aftermarket performance industry is a multi-billion dollar success* If you're elitest logical held ANY stock...there'be 15 large companies that would go out of business tonight, lol.


--- Kevin

PS: If you're GT2 "really" has 700HP as u claimed in another post....then you're driving my dream car*

...and for the record, I think armani and versace are great examples of coulture, hehe

 

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We have had plenty of customers take their cars down to the track and do runs, and we really should post those numbers. I am sure that they will be part of our new website. Also, 90% of the chargers we do are out of state cars, so we don't have them long enough to get them out on the track. Plus not many customer want their cars used for track runs. We have them for a week and then have to ship them back out. We do have 2 in-house supercharged cars (3.4L 996 and 3.6L 997), but nobody has had the time to get them out there to do a track run. Hopefully when things slow down towards the end of the year, we can get out there and do some runs....

Nate

 

Look, of course the GT2 is a superior track car, period. It is the best car for the track short of a carrera GT. Just because a car is better around a track doesn't make it a better car.

Where do you get off saying someone with a C2 or C4 or whatever can't afford a turbo? You have a cayenne S, you couldn't afford a Caynne Turbo? Spreading yourself too thin? I have a cayenne S in the garage as well, there obviously wouldn't be food on the table if it was a turbo instead. You even talked **** on the cayenne until you went and got one yourself.

With the prices some of the guys are paying for the Carrera S there are turbos going for far less than that, I don't think it is a matter of money at that point but choice.

Yes, if your goal is lap times a GT2 or GT3 is the way to go period. What about just more power in a daily driven carrera? What if you don't want the 996 body style and you just picked up a 997?

The thing is, turbos have been out since 01, me personally I would like to see what can be done on the carrera S platform. With a supercharger or if someone built the internals that could be one hell of a performance car that is different from everyone else. Modding a turbo has been done, everyone on here has a modded turbo, what if the goal is to be unique? What if someone prefers the power deliver of a supercharged motor? It just comes down to personal preference that is all.

Also, yes, someone in a C2 cab might have more enjoyment than a GT2 because they put their top down and just cruise and that is more fun for them than carving every corner at the highest possible speed.

 

1. My 996 Turbo which I sold was 700hp.

2. Armani and Versace are not great examples of couture. Try Brioni and Kiton.

@ Sticky-- The Cayenne S was given to my mom. If I was actually going to drive it, I would have bought the CT. Instead I have ordered an E60 M5, even though I don't particularly like the way it looks. Cayennes are butt ugly, but they are pretty cool trucks. Cayenne S is pretty cool, in retrospect, I should have just bought the Cayenne Turbo, no doubt.

That just about answers the questions for now.