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Old Nov 1, 2014 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by levinsje
I installed the kill switch in my 911T today.
After turning off the car I always flip the kill switch, even at home.
This way there will be no accidental turning on when in gear.
To me it is more important to bypass the cheap clutch switch that is prone to failure.
I also like the kill switch but now the clutch switch is prone to failure!? That's news to me.
 
Old Nov 1, 2014 | 02:24 PM
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It is the same switch that is on my 987.1 Boxster and it went out under warranty.
They put in another one and it went out the next day during my first autocross.
I put in the kill switch after that.
 
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Originally Posted by levinsje
I put in the kill switch after that.
i just re-read your earlier post re the toggle. its genius. well done. i must figure out how to get this done. i can't get my head past the twisting of the two wires to disable it. i get that. this is a great idea. the things ya learn here....
 
Old Nov 1, 2014 | 05:23 PM
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This is an easy job if you order the switch from Pep Boys (I know... but this switch is perfect for the job) from my earlier post.
The brown wire from the clutch switch plugs in the center post on the kill switch.
The other yellow/brown wire from the clutch switch plugs on the end post on the kill switch (the end that is not labeled ground).
You will then need to make a ground wire by soldering or crimping a fastener to mate to the ground post on the kill switch. The other end of the wire needs to be grounded.
I also put on some heat shrink.
I used several zip ties to hold the kill switch near the plug in port.
 
Old Nov 1, 2014 | 06:10 PM
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i'll save this but every time you said "you" in my case means someone else lol. but thanks, this is now on my never ending punch list.
 
Old Nov 1, 2014 | 06:59 PM
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I would suggest a switch that is only on when you are pushing it - "momentary on". That would make it like a start button that bypasses the clutch switch only when depressed. That would stop people from forgetting about it and running into trouble and also allow the functionality that people are looking for who want this mod.
 
Old Nov 1, 2014 | 07:33 PM
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Slider - smart I agree!
 
Old Nov 2, 2014 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Macster
Also, consider the wear and tear on the starter which is avoided because with the clutch depressed the starter doesn't have to spin the clutch disc and pressure plate and the transmission input shaft with its population of heavy gears.


The clutch disc, pressure plate and input shaft all spin regardless of whither the clutch is depressed or not.
 
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The pressure plate does, but the input shaft and disc do not rotate when the clutch is depressed
 
Old Nov 2, 2014 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 993GT
The pressure plate does, but the input shaft and disc do not rotate when the clutch is depressed
Correct... I got that one wrong,
 
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I don't think anyone planning this mod really expects to be starting the car with the clutch out. They are trying to find a way to use the clutch pedal limiter and still start the car. The plan is to still depress the clutch - just not enough to engage the clutch pedal switch.
 
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Originally Posted by Slider
I don't think anyone planning this mod really expects to be starting the car with the clutch out. They are trying to find a way to use the clutch pedal limiter and still start the car. The plan is to still depress the clutch - just not enough to engage the clutch pedal switch.
the thing is that is exactly what you can do. with the safety switch disabled the car will start whether the clutch is pushed in or not. most push the clutch in a habit that was taught early on before safety switches were the norm. it was then passed on to the younger set. remove the safety feature and you now have a live car anytime its started
 
Old Nov 2, 2014 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 993GT
The pressure plate does, but the input shaft and disc do not rotate when the clutch is depressed
Yes, I was wrong. The pressure plate does spin as it is bolted to the flywheel.
 
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Hi, I'm bringing this thread back to see if anyone has been able to modify the existing safety switch to work with the RSS clutch stop? The reason why I would like to do this is for possible future ECU tuning with such features as launch control. In that case, the ECU needs to know when the clutch pedal is fully depressed. The toggle and momentary switch mods are great for safety, but don't reflect clutch pedal position to the ECU.

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