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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 05:37 PM
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Yep, no missed or missplaced shift., thats it.
 
Old Nov 23, 2014 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
There is nothing to be faster. The shifting mechanism and process is the same. The only way to make it quicker is to shorten the throw. No different than true sequential shift levers vs paddle shifters. Data would show little/no difference. The benefit is no missed shift.
The difference is especially notable when going 2->3 , 4->5 and 4->3.... The reason being that you don't want to put in the wrong gear here... Definitely not to first gear! That never happened to me but going to 5 when intending going to 3 happened a couple of times both upwards and downwards... So with the SQS you don have to worry which makes it a little bit faster, with a super pro that may not be the case because he doesn't have to care if he blows the engine or gearbox, but for me it matters... ;-)

Second I wanted to mention is that you have a electric piston that pushes the gear in with SQS so that also makes it a little bit faster for a non pro.

But the single most important thing is that you don't miss a gear, not that is much faster!
 
Old Nov 24, 2014 | 09:49 AM
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Went with a CAE, loved the look and ergonomics of it. Supposedly closet shifter to a sequential but still H pattern. I will report back with photos and review.
 
Old Nov 24, 2014 | 11:24 AM
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i wonder how its closest to an sqs while still using the same pattern.
i mean if it isn't up/down, whats the point.
 
Old Nov 25, 2014 | 06:47 AM
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I would never go with a CAE.
Either a seq like SQS or a version like the 996GT3R Which I had previously and is Porsche OEM and really precise, huge difference to 996TT OEM.
I dont think the CAE will give much extra on top of that!

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Reverse lockout, centralized spring, makes 2-3-4 just a simple push pull, springs on each side for 1-2 and 5-6 so you know you are going into the correct gear. I also like the ergonomics of having the shifter higher, more time for your hands to be on the wheel. After thinking it over for a primarily street car the sequential would just be too annoying after some time and I do see a good amount of people removing them from their cars once they have had it. Plus the thing looks like a work of art and really liked it personally after doing a good amount of research. People love the CAE shifter.
 
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Installed the shifter today, definitely took longer then I thought but here is a quick camera phone shot, I am modifying the center console to show off the majority of the bracket. Will take more photos down the line.......


 
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Great choice with the CAE. I'll let you know how the sequential is next week when I get my car back!
 
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That second vid of Keen is a manual H box (no dog), he's just so talented he makes it sound like a dog box. There's a vid of Sofronas driving a 6 Cup at Fontana and it sounds the same way. GT3 Cup box is a great gear box (H manual). I beat the hell out of my Hollinger "sequential" in the 7 Cup but it still required clutch use on downshifts.

Originally Posted by heavychevy
I don't see how a shifter based sequential is faster, every thing depends on the speed of the driver and the distance of the throw. I've seen some in action and none of them look faster. In fact they look slower as you can engage the clutch on an h pattern as soon as the shifter clears the gate, on a sequential they seem to wait for the shifter to return to it's position before clutching out.

Dog box plus sequential

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIe2rpAOamg

dog box plus manual

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wkTuLjkY70
 
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I also chose the CAE shifter for my GT2 racer project. At this point the stock GT2 box is the weaklink. When it goes boom I will rebuild as a dog and install a paddle system.
 
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Originally Posted by Zuluracerx
I also chose the CAE shifter for my GT2 racer project. At this point the stock GT2 box is the weaklink. When it goes boom I will rebuild as a dog and install a paddle system.
Man that interior just rocks! Wow... Wish I will transform my car someday into that
 
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Old Dec 12, 2014 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Zuluracerx
That second vid of Keen is a manual H box (no dog), he's just so talented he makes it sound like a dog box. There's a vid of Sofronas driving a 6 Cup at Fontana and it sounds the same way. GT3 Cup box is a great gear box (H manual). I beat the hell out of my Hollinger "sequential" in the 7 Cup but it still required clutch use on downshifts.
Now that I think about it, you are right. I can't remember the nuances of the cup gearbox that makes them so much faster than the street boxes. Just straight cut gears.
 
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
Now that I think about it, you are right. I can't remember the nuances of the cup gearbox that makes them so much faster than the street boxes. Just straight cut gears.
You can have dog gears with a H pattern and no lift shifts
 


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