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Old Jan 31, 2015 | 01:12 PM
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K16 adjusting WG actuator rods tighter?

All the WG adjustment talk revolves around setting K24s for 1.0 bar. Can a flashed K16 996 Turbo with 60k miles benefit from a small amount of WG rod adjustment to help with spool and compensate for actuator deterioration over time?

I was considering going two turns tighter on the nut which IIRC would equate to approx 2mm of rod length to improve spool time but don't want to have a big mid range boost spike that the stock dash boost gauge doesn't register.
 
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All the WG adjustment talk revolves around setting K24s for 1.0 bar. Can a flashed K16 996 Turbo with 60k miles benefit from a small amount of WG rod adjustment to help with spool and compensate for actuator deterioration over time?

I was considering going two turns tighter on the nut which IIRC would equate to approx 2mm of rod length to improve spool time but don't want to have a big mid range boost spike that the stock dash boost gauge doesn't register.
my understanding is that manual adjustment will prevent the dme from opening the w/g when the computer wants it to open. so overboost when you least want it may happen. the proper way would be to install 1 bar w/g and adjust them for 1 bar. this way the computer can do what it needs to.

not the cheapest way but the proper way
 
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
my understanding is that manual adjustment will prevent the dme from opening the w/g when the computer wants it to open. so overboost when you least want it may happen. the proper way would be to install 1 bar w/g and adjust them for 1 bar. this way the computer can do what it needs to.
Thanks for the reply. My understanding is that the 1.0 bar WG kits are only applicable to K24s but that a small around of tightening on the stock K16 WG threaded rods is acceptable to compensate for the actuators weakening over time and causing softer spool.
 
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only thing i can add is that any adjustment made that isn't equal or is imprecise adjustment will have you fiddling with them as i ( well ..with help ) did for weeks. a 1/4 turn here, a 1/4 turn there. reminded me of messing with old amal carburetors on my old triumphs for some reason. probably because i would do the same thing with those decades ago. mess with the left.. mess with right... wait, almost!...and mess them all up
 
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Originally Posted by crffl
Thanks for the reply. My understanding is that the 1.0 bar WG kits are only applicable to K24s but that a small around of tightening on the stock K16 WG threaded rods is acceptable to compensate for the actuators weakening over time and causing softer spool.
i don't why that would be. the w/g appear to be the same style and many k16 turbos are running 1.2 to 1.5 bar tunes. i would ask some of the tuners on here for a precise answer.

when i installed 1 bar w/g on my k24 they had to be pressurized on each side to see were they crack open and then from the n75 to see they both crack open at the same time
 
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!

when i installed 1 bar w/g on my k24 they had to be pressurized on each side to see were they crack open and then from the n75 to see they both crack open at the same time
Maybe I will tighten them a bit and use a Mityvac to see when they open. Surprising that more K16 owners haven't played around with this
 
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Maybe I will tighten them a bit and use a Mityvac to see when they open. Surprising that more K16 owners haven't played around with this
I would hazard a guess because the spool is so fast manually tightening allows more chance of over post before the computer can interact
 
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I would start with 12.5 to 13 psi...
Mine are at 12.5 psi and I see a 1.4 bar in the higher RPMs.
 
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Originally Posted by crffl
All the WG adjustment talk revolves around setting K24s for 1.0 bar. Can a flashed K16 996 Turbo with 60k miles benefit from a small amount of WG rod adjustment to help with spool and compensate for actuator deterioration over time?

I was considering going two turns tighter on the nut which IIRC would equate to approx 2mm of rod length to improve spool time but don't want to have a big mid range boost spike that the stock dash boost gauge doesn't register.
yes it can but very little.. the oem springs are too soft...
 
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