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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 09:42 PM
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Aftermarket gauge question...

Looking to install some aftermarket guages, mostly to monitor boost, AF, maybe EGT....

I would prefer something with a control unit that could be mounted out of the way with a small digital display for the dash/console area. Does antyhing like this exist? I won't be looking at them while driving so I don't see the need to have three or four gauges if I can rotate the info around on one display. Provided I can store data to review when stopped.

Anyway, any ideas? If this doesn't exist, what do you guys recommend and where should i put them. I don't want to get into anything too custom.

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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 08:44 PM
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IMHO, you could always put 3 guages in the lower console (just get a frame made by any shop...not difficult process) and u'd be set.

Since you won't be looking at them constantly while driving, any other location (except maybe one the a pillar) would clash with the interior far too much.
 
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Sorry, I couldn't rotate the pic. Individual cylinder head temp, AFR, Individual cylinder exh. temps, water temp, oil temp, tranny temp. All digital.


Distant overall pic.
 

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i like that, but i've got a cab. that looks sharp though.

hate to be nosey, but what does that cost?
 
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what do you guys think about these?

i figure two of these would work on the steering column without looking goofy. might be easy to read there as well.







they make them for boost, AF, ect....





here's a link to their square digital gauges

http://www.dynotunenitrous.com/store/scripts/prodlist.asp?idcategory=44
 

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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 09:58 AM
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Originally posted by deputydog95
i like that, but i've got a cab. that looks sharp though.

hate to be nosey, but what does that cost?
deputydog,

S Car Go Racing did it awhile back. I don't remember the exact cost. Molding the plastic pod, gauges, bungs, sensors and switcher switches were about $2,500.00 if my memory serves me correctly. The biggest labor cost was the bungs welded at each header tube.

Thanks for the information on Dynotune Nitrous. I was looking for wire connect digital nitrous and fuel pressure gauges.
 

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Originally posted by cjv
Sorry, I couldn't rotate the pic. Individual cylinder head temp, AFR, Individual cylinder exh. temps, water temp, oil temp, tranny temp. All digital.


Distant overall pic.
That's a trick setup.
 
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Here is where we located the liquid CO2 controller.

Sorry about the dust.

NOS controller and Intercooler temp in, temp out and delta.

With deputydogs above gauge info we are going to laser cut a plate and install round digital fuel and nitrous pressure gauges next to the NOS and intercooler controller.

SPA shift lights/ rpm recorder
 

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what do you guys think of this setup? i'm assuming i can use it without the boost controller. this thing can measure just about anything, real time. it's a little pricey, but definatley has the neat gadget factor. wish i could get it without the boost controller, but i can't find one that just displays info.







SBC i-Color
This product's purpose is to control the boost of the turbocharger and improve the output of the engine. A state of the art digital controller for an accurate gain in boost pressure, which controls two highly efficient sequential solenoids, achieves a minimum over shoot on peak boost and a stable boost pressure.

Features of the product
Boost control & power meter function.
An added function, the Result graph, which displays the results of power, torque, boost, and A/F overlapping to each other on one screen. It has a function as al logger according to the RPM to compare a maximum of three channels on the horizontal axis that are power, torque, boost and A/F.

The ultimate boost controller
The known full auto function evolves further in the SBC i-D series. A still more precise control is added to the auto boost setup. In addition to the new full auto function in which the self-learning method can be chosen in three steps, a boost according to the RPM and speed is possible to setup to match on all the stages.

Full color (65.000 colors)
The graphics that the full color display made it possible are; such as displaying from analog to digital meter, graph comparison display and a possibility to produce a variation of back ground images. If the optional TEMP sensor and PRESS sensor are connected, it is also possible to display water temperature or oil temperature and oil pressure.

Optional Sensor: CODE 19210 Temp Sensor Set USD 101.69

CODE 19211 Press Sensor Set USD 101.69

Monitoring functions
Digital display:
A total of 12 data (Boost, Tacho, Speed, Power, Temp (Oil/Water), Fuel Press, Oil Press, Data 1 ?3 (A separate harness is necessary) can be monitored and it can display simultaneously on screen a maximum of six data.

?A/F can be displayed at the AUX port or at the external voltage port Data 1 ?3.

?The sensors are necessary to purchase separately.

Analog display:
The Boost, Tacho, Speed, Power, Temp (Oil/Water), A/F, Fuel Press and Oil Press are reproduced as an analog meter image at the LCD. It can monitor a maximum of 4 data, including the digital displays at the screen, and the boost set up is at will. Moreover, the background can also be chosen from a white, black, carbon, and blue.

Multi-angle display function
The display of the LCD can be set as left, right and perpendicular (the LCD at the top) operation angles. By selecting any one of these three angles, the switches also change automatically to the related angle.

Convenient functions
It has a full load of convenient functions, such as a peak display, independent warning setup by source, maximum of 10 minutes of record/replay function (replay function can convert the unit displayed), back light adjustment, dimmer function, contrast adjustment and language selection.

Optional A/F display function

If the optional A/F amplifier unit is connected, the A/F ratio can be measured and monitored, which can compare with boost or other sources. Thus, the boost setting can be broadened.

Regarding the boost controller
Sequential valve control:
Two-solenoid valves operate sequentially depending on the valve-open ratio. Mainly, the first valve will do most of the work at low valve-open ratio and at high valve-open ratio; the second valve will come to play.

Automatic correction of boost pressure (Initial learning):
It will automatically correct to the desired boost pressure that has been configured. A C mark will change color from RED to WHITE when the correction cycle (DUTY value) reaches the desired value. While the C mark is lighted, the SCRAMBLE MODE or the SPEED MAP MODE will not take effect on the used channel. However, the boost control will take effect even if the C mark does not change to WHITE color. This time, to perform the initial learning smoother, the normal, mild and slow function has been added. The Automatic correction of boost pressure is not applicable on manual mode.

External voltage input
It is possible to display, record, and replay by inputting an external voltage of 0-16V up to three channels. It is possible to change the voltage scale from -999 ?9999. It is also possible to arbitrary setup the value. Therefore, it can be used to record the throttle voltage, airflow voltage, water temp and replay for reference as a setting tool. The external voltage input harness is sole separately.

Product name: External voltage input harness
Product number: 15053
Our price: USD 36.29
Function: It can display external voltage source of 0 ?16V by taking it to the boost controller.



FEATURES

Opening Opening Opening Icon Menu

Dual Digital Dual Digital Warn Six Fold Tacho Map

Needle Meter BL Needle Meter WH Needle Meter CB Needle Meter Warn

Power Graph Tri Power Graph Result Graph ALL Boost Graph

Volt Input Setup Boost Setup Limit off Turned Off
 

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i think that last one i posted may have been overkill. what are your thoughts on this one? i just copied my post from the other thread as i'm not sure how often you turbo guys make it over there

check out this setup:

http://www.zeitronix.com/Products/zt2/zt2.htm





i still want to add a boost/af gauge. i think it might catch a mild boost leak or other problem before something bad happens.

run into a few question marks with regards to adding a boost gauge to our supercharger setups.

a manual one require a really long vaccum hose to be routed from the engine compartment to the dash. with such a long line, just opens up a possibility for gauge line failure and dreaded boost leaks.

using an electrical boost sensor would require something metal to mount the aluminum sensor flange into. i wouldn't feel comfortable with tapping a plastic boost hose for the sensor flange. just seems like it would be a leak waiting to happen.

my installer suggested possibly tapping the intercooler since it's metal. we're still exploring options.

any suggestions?
 
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