Day at the track...
In general things that make Cups different from mere mortals:
Weight: 1150 -1225 kg (996-991, dry, without the driver)
Power: 360 - 460 hp
Ride height and aero
Slicks
Sequential boxes
Least fat street cars weigh somewhere around high 1300 kgs. To get close to 997 or 991 Cup's weight/power ratio they need to have at least 500 Porsche hp. Cups still have the advantage of lesser weigh. Easier to toss around corners...
Weight: 1150 -1225 kg (996-991, dry, without the driver)
Power: 360 - 460 hp
Ride height and aero
Slicks
Sequential boxes
Least fat street cars weigh somewhere around high 1300 kgs. To get close to 997 or 991 Cup's weight/power ratio they need to have at least 500 Porsche hp. Cups still have the advantage of lesser weigh. Easier to toss around corners...
ha least that tells me my CAR might have a chance!.. with a driver of his caliber perhaps. I gotta lose weight. I throw MY car around corners and its a handful of behemoth. they are infinitely tighter than most track corners and it gets dicey.
ok I'm no racer but why are they able to pull away on the straightaways? i would think with 600+ hp in your car you would run them down on the straights (aren't they only about 500hp?) and they would have an advantage in the corners. but I'm seeing the opposite? you catch them in every corner yet on the long strait they seem to keep the distance.
either way its clear to me your suspension and brakes are working like clockwork!
either way its clear to me your suspension and brakes are working like clockwork!
With that said, the 997 and later Cups are amazing machines.....but reserved only for those that can stomach the +$3000/hr operating costs. In comparison, that makes my car down right budget friendly at around $500/hr.
Last edited by pwdrhound; Jul 20, 2015 at 01:56 PM.
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I am. Actually it should be a group of us coming including Chris C. who will race the Spec in the Club race. That's the plan right now. The two 997Cups will be racing there also. They did very well last year. The rest of us are going to run the advanced DE. I am going to run my car, a friend of mine is bringing his 997TT, and we should have a couple of GT3s also. The RMR PCA club race is August 15/16. We are all running that one. You should come down for that, it's not that far. A great venue and the best event of the year! Always a big party Friday and Saturday night..
With their sequential boxes their gearing is always perfect. When I'm chasing a newer cup on a tighter turn that I'll roll though in 3rd and hold to the next corner a cup will take two quick gear changes. At the end of Miller almost mile front straight a cup will be at the top of 6th gear and I'm still pulling in 5th. Some of the newer ones have now been updated with pneumatic paddles shifting the same box and can get really deep in the corners down shifting. It's amazing what a factory race car can do with 450-500 at the crank. Staying near one no matter who's driving it is a great feat in any car that's still street legal.
Powderhound are you still coming the Miller for the PCA race?
Powderhound are you still coming the Miller for the PCA race?
Last edited by pwdrhound; Jul 20, 2015 at 08:23 PM.
why i stay in my own backyard. i still have to pay attorneys 
what's the one about which one ya thought would be affordable. the racing part or the porsche part.
either way, great to live vicariously thru those vids
I was just up at Road America yesterday for the HAWK races, and admiring the GT3 cups and a 935 running in the Group 10 race- what a glorious sound. That's steep for operating costs- I had no idea!
Many guys will actually give you a figure closer to $5k/hr once you factor in paying for a support crew and the behind the scenes stuff to make it all happen at the track. The costs can be dizzying. One of the local guys for example shipped his 993Cup engine to Porsche for a precautionary rebuild. These cars are now worth well over $300k so he shipped it to Porsche to preserve the pedigree of the car. There was nothing wrong with the motor yet the bill he was given was just shy of $83k after disassembly. This is on an air cooled normally aspirated motor!!! I can't begin to think what the costs are to run an RSR. Just the under body paneling is over $25k from what I understand. There is no cheap off track excursion in that one. We had a guy that came out to the track this past weekend in his first 911 that he has owned, a $400K 993RSR. Man, I'm in the wrong business! lol!
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