sam and i argue about this all the time. get injectors not a 5 bar fpr. its a better way to go. uping pressure wont increse flow at the injector

 

For sure Steve. We're doing it in stages. Inlet pipes, injectors and clutch are next.

 

When I drop the motor this winter, injectors will replace the 5 bar.

Thanks for the heads up

 

Thank you.

 

No, I asked what Bar he was running and he misunderstood and replied that he's running a 5bar fpr. So I then asked him differently.

But thanks for playing.

 

Word

You do not need to buy crap you do not need

Go K16 billets, clutch, exhaust...... larger injectors.... decent tune like COBB, EPL, Eurodyne etc

call it a day

 

So to be clear... you do not need a 5 bar FPR for basic mods

 

i read he thought your reference was to his fpr, and it wasn't and since bar relates to the psi i just trying to play help and you're welcome, that's what i'm here for.

 

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No worries.

 

Guys, to be clear we are all on the same page. With respect Adam is not in the position to drop the motor for the next level of mods at this time. And he does not want to deal with installing the injectors with the motor in the car or at this phase. In many cases a five bar fuel regulator is a "Band-Aid". And a bad one at that. But the fact remains that ever since RUF, Gemballa, Cargraphic, Proto and several others started doing it 20 years ago they learned there is a certain spot around the 600hp mark when using a 5bar fuel regulator gives the stock fuel system more head room. So at this stage I gave Adam one to pop in until the next step. The car will be safer at 580 to 600 hp than without it. We're not trying to blow the doors off with a Band-Aid here. Nor say that it's not necessary to do injectors. He wants to drive and enjoy his car step-by-step. And I'll support him through it. I've never had a guy in almost 20 years run into an issue with a five bar and proper safe tuning. 1000% there is more headroom than without it. We actually spoke today about hanging onto the 3.8 to put it back in when it's injector time. I just know that in the meantime we want to have a higher reserve of fuel before the injectors suck the rails dry. It's not always ONLY choice a or B. I think the difference comes depending on support and conservative tuning.

 

...and proper use of bars

 

Well said. With the short driving season here in NH, I am not going to drop my motor and waste what little time I have left to enjoy my car. Once winter comes, I will complete phase 2. Im not a bandaid type guy, just time is not on my side currently.

 

cool. btw. i was kiddin before.. your car is easily worth the 44k. maybe 45+

back to and for all disdainers of 5 bar fpr's..if you have hybrid turbos and haven't done injectors, you NEED a 5 bar from the 3.8. it's not a band aid, but nor is it proper larger injectors admittedly. but it will ( and does ) meet and fulfills a need for *some* increased fuel whether gaming the system or not. its also easily good for 575whp+ but true, not much more. it has served me well for years although, injectors are a logical next step. the op is doing this in stages and he has good advice. it's a workable f not temporary fuel solution, and who knows. he might like where the car sits, at his eventual 575-600 whp soon to be realized goal. again, for which the 5 bar will suffice.

sh*t sam.. didn't read your other post explaining/justifying the use of a 5 bar.. but it looks like i copied/pasted lol. sorry/nevermind

 

Why switch back to the 3.8? The 5 bar will have better atomization. As long as your pump(s) is/are healthy, it's a good thing.

 

That is a great choice you are going to love it, your car is gonna feel like a rocket and you couldn't ask for a better person to work with for this type of project. Sam is the man he as helped me a lot even with projects that he doesn't sell the parts.