Once again, don't make assumptions for why people carry guns or the situations in which they are placed. Are you trying to imply that most people who are in a position to need a gun are there through a fault of their own? You mention their "wisdom" or lack of, for that matter. That seems like a rather broad generalization, don't you think?

You never miss something until you need it and don't have it. It's always better to be prepared. I'd rather have my gun and never use it than to not have one and need it.

 

Yes I would bet money on it. Perhaps "fault" is not the right word, but definitely something they had control over.

I don't think so. The fact is that the overwhelming majority of people go through their entire lives without needing a gun to protect themselves in a life or death situation.

 

A few years ago, I was at a gas station late at night; around 12:30am. I opened my driver's side door as the engine was cooling down (on our cars, both doors unlock when you open one door). This took about 15 seconds and I saw nobody around. It was well lit and there were people inside of the gas station; a few cars were sitting at the pumps. My left foot was out of the door, foot was off of the clutch/brake/gas, the car was in neutral, and I still had my seatbelt on...

My passenger-side door opens up and a mid-late 40s year old man began to climb into my car while mumbling gibberish.

What would you do?

 

Just because they never need one in their life doesn't mean that they shouldn't own one.

 

Whip out my piece and bust a cap in his ***?

Yeah, that's kind of a problem if you ask me. Are you saying you would actually kill someone just because they were trying to steal your car, and your life wasn't in danger?

 

Who said you have to live with hang around the certain crminal element no one here goes looking for them in their exotic car, THEY are the ones on the prowl for doing wrong things.
I have been to Dallas and most major cities in this great country of ours and let me tell you a thin line separates neighborhoods that breed criminals and people that just want to survive.
But someone put it simply and honestly here on the board, Its better to have and not need it than to need it and not have it. Or as far as one of my family members shooting me I am not worried as they are NEVER left in a place where it can be gotten to by my children, and yes my daughter knows how to shoot and she is 12, I grew up around guns and were taught to fear and respect them. The Democrats can keep trying to take them away but I pray to God that they and their kind simply realize one day what they are trying to do is wrong, and I will leave this country in a heartbeat if that other Clinton ***** gets near the office of the presidency of this great country.

Bajo

 

This is a serious question because it happened to me. What would you honestly do?

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Yeah, that's kind of a problem if you ask me. Are you saying you would actually kill someone just because they were trying to steal your car, and your life wasn't in danger?

If I am in my car (read what I typed again) and someone tries to take it, I would shoot them without hesitation. By law, I cannot shoot them if they try to take it and I am away from the vehicle (there are rules, but I will not go into all of the scenarios at this time). The same holds true if I am in my house and someone has made an unlawful entry.

 

Yeah, that's kind of a problem if you ask me. Are you saying you would actually kill someone just because they were trying to steal your car, and your life wasn't in danger? [/B][/QUOTE]

You want to stop him and ask him are you threating my life or just want the car????
Sorry I would shoot him and be around the next day for my family than worry about what his "intentions" were at the time, I am not saying shoot to kill but SHOOT definately.

Bajo

 

Even though your life wasn't in danger? Wow, I can't imagine that.

This really has nothing to do with the law ...

No I don't actually live in Dallas ... why would anyone broadcast to the world on the Internet where they really live? And no I'm not a Democrat either LOL

 

You can't imagine me shooting someone because they are trying to take my vehicle while I am in it whether they have a weapon or not? However, you can imagine someone trying to take a car while someone is in it and that person just giving their car up? Interesting...


It has everything to do with the law. If you would like to argue morals, we can take this into the Off Topic forum. I come from a highly legal background, so perhaps we see things differently. I am willing to see your side and be open to what you believe. However, I will never say that you are wrong or that you don't have a right to make your legal decision, whatever that may be. You seem to convey the opposite: if it isn't what you would do, you see something wrong with it (even though it is legal) and seem to question the intelligence of those who act opposite of your beliefs.

 

I have a friend that had shot a thief in the head and killed the guy while hanging on the drivers side door. To make a long story short, it was not worth it. Had to go to trial for manslaughter, a years worth of court dates, a vehicle he could not drive due to evidence. The guy was a true gun hound.

He said if he had to turn back time he would have not have pulled the trigger. Once the bullet leaves the chamber there is no turning back.

That's what insurance is for.

 

That speaks volumes. Dallas has one of the highest rates of violent crime in the country, while on the other hand some areas of the Dallas/Fort Worth metroplex are among the best places in the country to live. I lived in Dallas and now live in a quiet northern suburb of Dallas. I used to live in NYC for 5 years and grew up on the east coast (NJ/NY)- I went to medical school in Newark, NJ, where carjacking was invented and where it was very dangerous to be a white male. I'd say parts of Dallas compare pretty well to Newark, and NYC was one of the safest places I ever lived, comparable to the 'burbs I live in now. D/FW is a metroplex of at least a dozen smaller cities and towns, with a population of over 8 million people. Our airport is larger than Manhattan. One thing that I learned moving to the South- the poor inner-city South is really, really dangerous.

Fact is, around the world, most bad things happen to people you would predict them to happen to- if you want statistics, this is on the order of 80-85% depending on what you read. However, that 15-20% of victims has not universally lost their common sense, and it is naive to contend that all bad things happen to bad people or stupid people.

I have my reasons for carrying, and maybe if you lived in my shoes you'd carry too and you should consider respecting points of view that differ from your own. Given your life experience, you feel perfectly safe without weapons, and for you I'm happy and I respect your opinion.

 

Specifically, in which country do you live? In most EU countries, most folks consider their national identity before their European one. Also, which news are you watching? Y'all have a horribly increasing exposure to violent crime. As your countries become more socioculturally, religiously and ethnically heterogeneous, like the US, you will see the same phenomina we do. I've included a link below for you.

Editorial on Violent Crime in Europe

 

No I don't actually live in Dallas ... why would anyone broadcast to the world on the Internet where they really live? And no I'm not a Democrat either LOL [/B][/QUOTE]

Yeah you dont have to broadcast it but you know as well as anyone here that it can be determined where you are typing from as long as you are connected to the net.

Wherever you may live may you live in peace and serenity and safety !

Bajo

 

Great article!! I understand the risks of carrying firearms but Iam glad that most of us live in a nation that (for the most part) allows us to choose to arm ourselves for protection or not.