Does anyone recall any previous threads that petitioned owners about coolant pipe failures.


Whether they had a failure and how many miles when it occurred.
If they have not had a failure and how many mile on the car presently.
Was the car tracked in either case.


BTW, I have a 2005 TS, with 55,000, never tracked.


John

 

I remember some threads asking about it but never an official survey.

Sadly, not enough people reported that the failure occured while driving for the NHSTA to order a recall on the pipes.
http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/feds...-a-recall.html

I have a 2001 Turbo with 40k, never tracked previously with no pipe failure (knock on wood)

 

Thanks. If there is sufficient interest/responses I will tabulate the results in a spreadsheet and share.


I suppose another question is: Who has had this done preemptively and at what mileage?


John

 

Wonder if it's worse than Tesla's motor failure rate (2/3 of all by 60k miles) - http://www.greencarreports.com/news/...-data-suggests

At least Tesla steps up the plate and takes care of their customers. Shame on Porsche.

I personally had a car that I was test driving let go catastrophically during the test drive. An '03 @ 89k miles. Fortunately my personal car, '03@45k, is just fine, though I'm going to proactively address it.

 

135k miles w rwd @ 575'ish and i'm not doing sh*t "proactively" unless the motor needs to fully come out. which will probably happen one day, but it won't be because of the fittings. he says while knocking on wood lol. also, my car has been TRACKED.

just say no to fear mongering. it hasn't happened to enough cars or risen to the "level" of the safety "necessity" of a ntsb recall is the only reason there hasn't been one. we hear about the cars it happens to, that's what forums are about. problems. case in point;

how many threads are there for the the thousands of m96 motors that begin with:

"took my car out today, and the coolant fittings held"?

 

this!

 

Winner winner chicken dinner!

 

Is the coolant pipe repair the same thing as pining? or is pining for the engine?

 

i think when you see "pinning" it's referencing either "pinning" the coolant lines vs welding or even the cheapest choice of last resort, for reconnecting them which is using JB Weld epoxy type "tube welding" lol. which is pretty close to what porsche started with, i think... glue.

 

TTX50 I tend to agree with you, however with over 400 views on this post I am surprised that there have not been more responses with individual stats?


BTW, I love JB weld, and always have the product in my tool box.


John

 

that stuff is a wonder of the 20th century! agreed.

i would use the jb weld to re-do the lines without reservation. although i have no doubt that genuinely welding them would have to be ( by virtue of the welding solution itself over the pinning or re-gluing methods ) the longer lasting solution. i just believe and have been told by folks i trust that the jb weld IF done properly!? and cured adequately is "adequate" to the task. though that may in fact be the key word in any discussion of using jb weld in the first place. it would be difficult to make the case that something that comes out of a tube and you swirl around to mix on a paper plate is going to have longer lasting adhesive properties than welding would

as to your other question, the only thing i can offer is there is a decidedly lower post contribution percentage to threads in which i contribute, as measured against those in which i do not this has been scientifically concluded to be so, while the coolant fix issue, is still up for debate!

so, while i'd venture that answers it fairly accurately but there is that, and/or the holidays approaching and it's possible enough ennui has not yet settled in for some as it has for myself ( as many I'm sure are still working? ) so not enough of those bored enough to contribute to yet another thread on "pin/weld coolant line fix" options have shown up...just yet!.. but it's always better than spark plug or oil threads!

 

Maybe the lack of response is attributed to the fact that very few of these hoses let go, therefore not many people have a reply for the question.

 

And you're in this thread why? Because you, like the rest of us, are looking for sufficient anecdotal evidence to make a judgement call.

You say you track your car? Surely not with most PCA events because there is strong guidance to have addressed this to run with them - https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...quired-de.html But PCA must be fear mongering too right?

To the OP, you might start here:
http://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-g...-registry.html

 

I pulled the engine out of my 2001 @ 55k miles due to a coolant leak I couldnt find coming from the hardest to get to spot on top of the engine. It ended up being an o-ring in one of the cross over pipes. However while it was all apart I went ahead and did the pinning procedure to prevent further worries. Tbh, I feel much better about the car now. It was worth the time spent to do it to me. Granted, I did this all on my own (so it didnt cost a fortune) and did all the 60k maint while it was out too. If I had to pay several thousand to a shop to do it my answer might be different

 

that's preposterous, to suggest i'm seeking "anecdotal evidence to make a judgment call". WTF are you on about? my judgment has already been made! the reports of the coolant fittings letting go are not sufficient enough for any intervention by any governmental agency to intervene. that was the decision made based upon the ntsb investigation. this is a closed case. tracking these cars absent retrofitting the coolant lines and the cars qualifying for entry into particular sanctioned events, and the NECESSITY of not doing so for daily reliability of the car as evidenced by the possibly thousands of these that have NOT had their lines redone, are proof enough that they ARE NOT one and the same.

the fact that fittings letting go can and probably will cause a dangerous situation for anyone travelling behind such an occurrence are not in dispute! by me, or anyone else i've ever heard of on the topic. DUH.

so, besides winning the award for presumptuousness of the day, what's your problem buddy? i never said I tracked my car, what i said was also, my car has been TRACKED." and don't need the likes of you to correct me or even question what my motivation for contributing might be, or even for that matter why i'm here. speak for yourself, and it's best you don't tell me why i am or am not here, as you'll again be wrong.

but here it is again, so perhaps you'll grasp the error of your criticism. what i wrote was:

"135k miles w rwd @ 575'ish and i'm not doing sh*t "proactively" unless the motor needs to fully come out. which will probably happen one day, but it won't be because of the fittings. he says while knocking on wood lol. what i said SPECIFICALLY in case specificity and nuance are lost on you is this:also, my car has been TRACKED." see the difference?

so we are clear, ( rather for YOUR! benefit and edification ) the tracking of my car pre-dated both my ownership of it, as well as any restrictions against these cars being entered in events without any certification that coolant fittings have been "retrofitted" or whatever it is that must NOW be done as a requirement to entering an event.

so there ya have it. think first, jump second.