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LOG's and IAT's with Joe Toth Intake Scoops & Wagner 3.5" IC's PLUS Wagner 5.7" IC's

Old Jun 27, 2016 | 08:06 AM
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Heres a few more logs at various rpm in various gears IATS plus lots more too much actually, my mate was driving my laptop and he doesnt know what he is doing

Pic of the carbon fibre shrouds i reckon ill install Wednesday or Thursday

 
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Old Jun 27, 2016 | 11:13 AM
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woops never mind.... I see the outside temps
 
Old Jun 27, 2016 | 06:16 PM
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tried 3 logs, show almost nothing.... I would do the following


dont log so many parameters, only these are more than enough
rpms
pedal value
IAT
boost pressure of sensor
Oxygen sensing bank 1 Lambda Value
same for bank 2
ignition timing
engine load

set your logging to fast(est)

get your car in 2nd gear at 2500rpms, get one pass with you, just before going WOT click start on durametric, not before
log WOT 2nd,3rd,4th...5th,6th optional if you can, shift only at 7000rpms
roll like 30-60seconds to see later in the log how temps get down
step on it again in 3rd gear lets say.. and do 3,4,5 or so
roll like 60 seconds
stop log and put it here
 
Old Jun 27, 2016 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by timccloud
Heres a few more logs at various rpm in various gears IATS plus lots more too much actually, my mate was driving my laptop and he doesnt know what he is doing

Pic of the carbon fibre shrouds i reckon ill install Wednesday or Thursday



What was the outside weather temp when u did the logs ???

What's the max IAT reach at WOT ???
 
Old Jun 27, 2016 | 09:04 PM
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I think max IAT was 22 degrees around 11 degrees Centigrade outside.

But the IATs are in the logs if you want to go through them.

Yes Fadi I know the logs have to many parameters but as I said my mate was driving the computer I told him what to log but he ended up adding so much more. I had no idea until I posted as I was to busy driving at over 200kph

Hopefully ill log again tonight.

Cheers,
Tim
 
Old Jun 27, 2016 | 11:02 PM
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Will be very interesting to see how much of a difference the new intercoolers make. These runs are all with side scoops right? One thing I badly want to figure out with my car is how much heat I pickup in the y-pipe and if insulation helps or not. I should have it back this week ���� so hopefully can begin grabbing data soon Love those CF ducts!
 
Old Jun 28, 2016 | 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by BLKMGK
Will be very interesting to see how much of a difference the new intercoolers make. These runs are all with side scoops right? One thing I badly want to figure out with my car is how much heat I pickup in the y-pipe and if insulation helps or not. I should have it back this week ���� so hopefully can begin grabbing data soon Love those CF ducts!
Yes all with scoops and 3.5" coolers

I wondered the same thing about the Y Pipe i did try wrapping it once but found i didnt have enough space left for the airbox.

I've got some sticky wrap ill give that a go tonight when i fit my new dual intake carbon pieces to the deck lid and airbox.

Ill log again once thats complete.
 
Old Jun 28, 2016 | 08:17 AM
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Do you have any past logs where its much warmer outside with the wagner 3.5"s
 
Old Jun 28, 2016 | 09:38 AM
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Did you happen to do any before after logs with the scoops being the only addition?
 
Old Jun 28, 2016 | 09:52 AM
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Did you happen to do any before after logs with the scoops being the only addition?
Yeah sure but no IATs

I may pull the scoops off and log sooner or later but first I need to find my roll of very high bond tape which if you didnt know easily peels off with contact cleaner
 
Old Jun 28, 2016 | 05:51 PM
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Megalog viewer or an excel graph would be interesting to see rise on a long pull then compare with the bigger ones. Gauge on my car reads inlet and outlet temps, temp drop is pretty amazing on a good intercooler. Wanting to instrument the heck out of my system. No air box anymore too so I can insulate the heck out of the y-pipe if I want.
 
Old Jun 29, 2016 | 10:02 AM
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Cool

Here are some final logs with the Wagner 3.5's and Joe's Scoops there would of been more but I blew my water pump and sorry they are not edited.

I'll be installing my new 5.7" Wagner coolers and shrouds over the next few days while I wait for the water pump to arrive. I'm looking forward to seeing how much difference my new massive coolers make.

I'll most likely post a Cooler install thread with plenty of pics.

Cheers,
Tim
 
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Old Jun 29, 2016 | 11:06 AM
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Thanks for the data, Tim. I think you be happier w the 5.7" coolers. They have a decent looking tube and fin core that should cool better. Based on your 3rd gear logs, those 3.5s are going to get fugly fast in 5th and 6th. The flip side is the ducts will be much more effective there. I wouldn't expect much from the ducts in 3rd or even 4th for that matter.

Keep the results coming and try to find room for some pulls well into 5th!
 
Old Jun 30, 2016 | 04:19 PM
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wait of the results from 996 tt
 
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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 04:58 PM
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The coolers are going in should be all boxed back up by monday. Only reason its taking so long is im dropping the motor at the same time to replace a few check valves and ensure I have no boost or vac leaks anywhere.

Pulls all the way to V max will be posted plus a few hours on the track.

Stand by for the install thread, im looking forward to posting no BS real world results.

Cheers,
Tim
 

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