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Old 05-17-2017, 08:49 PM
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996 Turbo S (2005) or 997.1 (2006) C4S

Guys need an advice:
I have a chance to buy 996 Turbo S. 2005. Short shifting Gear. with Minor stuff (window lifter or so) needs to be done ( say more 5K $).75000 km. Black. coupe. Owned by a guy working in VW group as an adviser but can get porsche work done at the dealer easily!

Should I get that one or

997.1 C4S immaculate one. convertible. with an available metal top. Silver. Major service done prematurely (cuz he can do it!) 42000 km on the clock. Porsche FAN. - owns another 991 manual, Cayenne manual.

Both are manual and with car loving owners....

996 would need touch up


I will use any of those as a daily drive... My previous 996 C2 had 180000km when I sold it a few months ago... I am not going to keep any of them in the garage. I would use them once r twice a week for more than 300 km drive.
Will Turbo S cost me more than C4S on the long term?

What would be your pick?
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911 turbo. If those words don't get your pulse going...
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I've owned a 996 C2 Cab for just over 7 years and my Turbo for just over 7 as well. The only thing I never liked about the Turbo was AWD which I addressed a couple of years ago. I'd much rather have a 996 TT than a 997.1 just for the motor. I like the exterior and interior of the 996 better as well.
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Turbo S!

Out of the box in the quarter they are only 1-2 mph short of a 997.1 Turbo. The K24's it comes with they are just a flash, exhaust, inlets, wastegates and 5BAR (injectors preferably) short of beating and or keeping up with everything short of the 991.2 Turbo's on pump (131traps)!! If you put a Billet wheel in there your 05 Turbo on pump has all the new stuff covered.

I just can't imagine a top of the line 911, all that daily effortless torque and easy mod potential given up for a NA 911, let alone only 1yr newer.

Turbo S!!
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drive both and the uncertainty will rapidly dissipate. in my book. thats a "no brain er"

in spite of its added creature comforts and new car smell, the only car coming close to a proper porsche "turbo" is the 991.2 carrera s and the turbos in it help make this so lol

my advice? the 997c4s is only good in alaska..

and forgo the 996 turbo "S" ( unless you plan on flipping it undriven as some seem to do ) and get a '01/04 996 turbo and spend the saved cpl of grand on mods, and you'll know why you did.

think of it this way. a modded 996 turbo has twice the on tap power of your current c2.
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Turbo S!

Out of the box in the quarter they are only 1-2 mph short of a 997.1 Turbo. The K24's it comes with they are just a flash, exhaust, inlets, wastegates and 5BAR (injectors preferably) short of beating and or keeping up with everything short of the 991.2 Turbo's on pump (131traps)!! If you put a Billet wheel in there your 05 Turbo on pump has all the new stuff covered.

I just can't imagine a top of the line 911, all that daily effortless torque and easy mod potential given up for a NA 911, let alone only 1yr newer.

Turbo S!!
You really made me think: "what the hell I was thinking of for this whole time?!!" I just want these kinds of comments to justify to myself spreading my budget on my "want" list.....
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the "S" isn't worth anything ( more ) except for the badging ( and who among us doesn't want a 911S?! ..that i get.. ) and for "future" resale. plus do you really need pccbs"? probably not.

but you mentioned youre buying a "new to you" 'driver".. so get a 996 or a 997.1 turbo. or..

a new 991.2 c2 on lease and write it off
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We are going to be biased for sure, but with good reason. A Turbo is in a different league and 996Turbo is a heck of a Turbo. Extremely competent right out of the box and with a couple tweaks you can have a monster. As Mark said....this one is a no brainer!
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I guess it is all in what you are after. To me the 996tt is great for tuning. It is like a more modern Supra to me. I bought it for its great racing engine which uses an old aircooled case with updated watercooled cylinders. In the looks department I give it a 7/10. The 997 is better looking and more comfortable, with the downside being extra weight. The non turbo version gets the much less desirable mass produced engine with very little tuning capability. If the 300hp is good enough for you and you want the updated looks then the 997 C4 might be a good fit for you.
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You're unsure of turbo 911 or na convertible 911? I don't know if we can be of any help
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This is a silly question (you are in the turbo forum ), although one I did ask myself years back. I decided on the Turbo; couldn't be happier. Now if you were discussing an air cooled RS that might be a different story. Enjoy.
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I think the 2006 still has the engine that could have rear main seal issue. The newer 9A1 engine did not come out until 2009, I think. From an engine standpoint, the turbo engine. Not even close.
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Yup, I think you are right..up to 2008 still have ims concerns. I've noticed that many people think the ims concerns are only a 996 thing when it is also an early 997 issue as well. As if just being a Turbo wasn't enough reason. Now this!

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I think the 2006 still has the engine that could have rear main seal issue. The newer 9A1 engine did not come out until 2009, I think. From an engine standpoint, the turbo engine. Not even close.
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the "S" isn't worth anything ( more ) except for the badging ( and who among us doesn't want a 911S?! ..that i get.. ) and for "future" resale. plus do you really need pccbs"? probably not.

but you mentioned you're buying a "new to you" 'driver".. so get a 996 or a 997.1 turbo. or..

a new 991.2 c2 on lease and write it off
An Update for the friends and buddies who were participating in this thread...

I missed on the Turbo S A guy beat me to it on the day I was gonna do the PPI. He paid the 10% extra those I was negotiating on!
C4S was convertible .. and that put me off. Otherwise, it was running smooth.

3 or 4 months fast forward....
Found 996.2 manual with 89000 km on it, in a very good shape. and bought it.

I hope to update you on it soon.....
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