After Market Brake upgrade suggestions
#1
After Market Brake upgrade suggestions
Looking for info and suggestions on brake upgrade for 99TT. Lots of upgrades to my car now its time for brakes! Love to buy a set up used if anyone has for sale. Otherwise looking for best set up for street and best value. My car is 02 and has 31K miles on it. I do not drive it as much as I would like so no interest in getting some over the top set up. I want improved braking
Thanks- Steve
Thanks- Steve
#2
Hi Steve, actually the OEM brakes on the turbo are very good. Depending on usage you can change pads/fluid something like PFC08. Next mod would be 350mm setup with existing calipers. Several vendors sell this setup. Next option is the 6GT3/997TT 6-pot/4pot 350mm package. Again several vendors offer this as well. All depends on what you are looking for and want to spend. My my car has the 6-pot/4pot 350mm upgrade, but a previous 996tt tracked heavily did pretty well with just good fluid, PFC pads, and GT3 air ducts.
#7
Check ebay etc for calipers.
Yes u can use ceramic Hawk pads on steel rotors.
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#8
I have the Brembo GT350 6 pot BBK and really like them. Only downside i have experienced is driving in the rain heavy) he first brake application after a long drive time will feel like they are not biting. Just step on the pedal a little harder and they are back to normal. Not really a problem just an observation. They have done well at the track also.
#10
I'm a bit unclear on exactly what you are trying to achieve I'm no way being judgemental. If you want the look of high performance, like 6 pot huge yellow calipers up front, I get it, yeah they look impressive. Do you want better "feel", like more bite with less pedal effort? I understand that too, I would. My Subaru Crosstrek brakes have better feel than my TT, but I'm almost sure things would change if I was to brake really hard on both cars from 110 MPH.
I've had my TT for almost a decade and I'm still on the original OE brakes, 34K miles. I've found them to be fine as they are even for really aggressive canyon driving with speeds ranging from about 45-90 MPH and a couple of quick bursts up to about 125. I'm a former motorcycle road racer and can lift the back wheel at speeds way into triple digits with 2 fingers on the lever.
My advice if you just want better braking, is to learn to be smoother in all situations. You'll be surprised that you may not even need to brake at all at points where you previously were braking pretty hard and aggressively. I can scream up on a sharp turn, make a quick steering change which in itself will scrub some speed then get hard on the gas again early. I make subtle changes and try to be so smooth that a passenger cannot tell if I'm braking at all or starting to accelerate. If you keep the chassis from experiencing abrupt transitions, traction remains at a premium and speeds can be kept pretty high through all of this.
Just some things to ponder.
I've had my TT for almost a decade and I'm still on the original OE brakes, 34K miles. I've found them to be fine as they are even for really aggressive canyon driving with speeds ranging from about 45-90 MPH and a couple of quick bursts up to about 125. I'm a former motorcycle road racer and can lift the back wheel at speeds way into triple digits with 2 fingers on the lever.
My advice if you just want better braking, is to learn to be smoother in all situations. You'll be surprised that you may not even need to brake at all at points where you previously were braking pretty hard and aggressively. I can scream up on a sharp turn, make a quick steering change which in itself will scrub some speed then get hard on the gas again early. I make subtle changes and try to be so smooth that a passenger cannot tell if I'm braking at all or starting to accelerate. If you keep the chassis from experiencing abrupt transitions, traction remains at a premium and speeds can be kept pretty high through all of this.
Just some things to ponder.
#11
I thought the 996tt braking was kind of poor because of the lack of initial bite. I was asking around looking for brake pads that would bite harder and I was told that the 996TT brakes were designed to be that way because it is actually smoother for tracking when the setup is more progressive. They could make brakes that bite hard but do not for this reason. I though about getting race type pads but was told that those are actually worse for bite unless they are heated up.
#12
Stock brakes with good fluid and pads is all you're going to need for street or casual track use, especially if you aren't running R-compound tires or slicks.
If you want to go with the best- it isnt cheap, way way overkill unless you track regularly and really push the car on good rubber because you'll never need this much brakes on the street or street tires. 997 GT3 PCCB calipers, Girodisc 380mm front/350mm rear rotors, PFC 08 pads, 997 GT3 master cylinder, 996 GT3 brake booster, 997 GT3 vacuum pump, modified 997 GT3 front upper brake cooling ducts, 996 cup lower brake cooling ducts, 997 GT3 rear undertray with upper brake cooling ducts, 997 GT3RS lower rear brake cooling ducts, Endless RF650 brake fluid.. all I'm missing is a motorsport ABS system to take full advantage of the setup.
If you want to go with the best- it isnt cheap, way way overkill unless you track regularly and really push the car on good rubber because you'll never need this much brakes on the street or street tires. 997 GT3 PCCB calipers, Girodisc 380mm front/350mm rear rotors, PFC 08 pads, 997 GT3 master cylinder, 996 GT3 brake booster, 997 GT3 vacuum pump, modified 997 GT3 front upper brake cooling ducts, 996 cup lower brake cooling ducts, 997 GT3 rear undertray with upper brake cooling ducts, 997 GT3RS lower rear brake cooling ducts, Endless RF650 brake fluid.. all I'm missing is a motorsport ABS system to take full advantage of the setup.
#13
I did PM you but for most guys a simple 350mm rotor upgrade with stock calipers and spacers is more than enough and affordable. It improves braking torque, reduces fade, and helps with pedal feel. For bang for the buck it's your best option.
You can change to 997tt/997.1 gt3 calipers as well but getting harder to find and now seem to bring pretty good money, 1500+ for a set. Then you need rotors and pads on top of that.
Ultimate like chris said is the 997 pccb calipers with 380 front, 350 rear but huge price tag on that.
You can change to 997tt/997.1 gt3 calipers as well but getting harder to find and now seem to bring pretty good money, 1500+ for a set. Then you need rotors and pads on top of that.
Ultimate like chris said is the 997 pccb calipers with 380 front, 350 rear but huge price tag on that.